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My apps are in the Danish Google Play and Apple App Store... I never been there, I don't read or write danish, I never interacted with danish government, or me

• kuschku 11y ago
  > except that you clicked "publish" somewhere on Google or Apple uploading interfaces. At which point you agree to adhere to their laws and regulations. A famous example of someone operating legally under local law, but who got prosecuted for having merely a website accessible in another country, was Kim Dotcom. That’s the current state of international law, either lobby to change it, or accept it, but don't ignore it.
  • gambiting 11y ago
    >>At which point you agree to adhere to their laws and regulations. Uhm nope. If my app(published on Apple Store/Google Play) violated a law in Saudi Arabia and they sent me a letter requesting me to appear and subject myself to 100 lashes for violating their law, I would very promptly disregard said letter, to put it politely.
    • kuschku 11y ago
      Then don’t publish your app in those countries.
      • gambiting 11y ago
        But....why not? As a person interested in selling my app, why would I not publish it in the largest number of markets available?
        • calbear81 11y ago
          Because if you're not willing to do the legwork to see if your app is following the letter of the law in those countries, you may be subjected to being banned due to violation of said laws.
          • Retra 11y ago
            That's not really an argument. Go ahead and ban it. There's no reason anyone should preemptively ban themselves just because someone else wants them banned. It's a bit like saying "You should hang yourself, because if you don't, I'll hang you." The proper response is "get on with it then."
            • kuschku 11y ago
              Selling apps is like selling any other product. I can’t sell medical marihuana in most states of the US – and I don’t go and try, and then complain about getting arrested. Instead, if I wanted to start a business doing that, I’d check out where it would be legal, and in which ways, and sell my product in those markets. Why do you assume you can sell your product in markets without having checked the legality, and then complain when they ban your product because it violates the local law?
        • chrischen 11y ago
          They have the power to block you in their country, just as you have the power to publish in their country. Just because you can take their money doesn't mean they have to accept that.
        • kuschku 11y ago
          Selling apps is like selling any other product. I can’t sell medical marihuana in most states of the US – and I don’t go and try, and then complain about getting arrested. Instead, if I wanted to start a business doing that, I’d check out where it would be legal, and in which ways, and sell my product in those markets. Why do you assume you can sell your product in markets without having checked the legality, and then complain when they ban your product because it violates the local law?
    • Grollicus 11y ago
      You might do this and then you get convicted in absentia, Saudi Arabia will send a request for extradiction, your country will say no, done. Except: better not travel to Saudi Arabia or any other country that will extradict. Also Saudi Arabia will propably ban your App, which is what is happening in Brasil.
      • AnthonyMouse 11y ago
        > You might do this and then you get convicted in absentia, Saudi Arabia will send a request for extradiction, your country will say no, done. Except: better not travel to Saudi Arabia or any other country that will extradict. And that is the problem. You can't actually expect people to hire lawyers from 108 different countries to see if their app is legal in each of them just because they're going to distribute it on the internet, to say nothing of what happens when two countries have mutually contradictory laws (e.g. privacy vs. data retention). And a person who goes to see the Great Pyramids shouldn't have to worry about being hauled off to Saudi Arabia and then stoned to death because their app doesn't prohibit blasphemy. > Also Saudi Arabia will propably ban your App, which is what is happening in Brasil. Which only increases the proliferation of tools to bypass the restriction.
        • tomcorrigan 11y ago
          > You can't actually expect people to hire lawyers from 108 different countries You could expect facebook, with their almost infinite resources to so.
          • ThisIs_MyName 11y ago
            No business should play along with their BS or hand over customer data. I never thought I'd say this, but: Good on Facebook for not complying.
            • kuschku 11y ago
              So, VW should be able to sell cars in the US ignoring the environmental laws, too?
    • serge2k 11y ago
      They have every right to pull your app, arrest you and prosecute you if you ever do go to their country, and apply to have your extradited under relevant treaties.
      • lerpa 11y ago
        They have every right to do something ridiculous like that, in the same sense Hitler had every right to kill the Jews. I.e. only in their minds. Harmful lays laws should not be considered lawful just because somebody wrote them down.
        • serge2k 11y ago
          While I agree that whipping someone, execution via stoning, and other punishments are inhuman and no country has the right to exact them, I stand by my point in general.
      • YokoZar 11y ago
        I disagree, because I believe human rights exist.
    • lawpoop 11y ago
      And you won't care if they summarily shut down your app in their country, then, of course?
  • beedogs 11y ago
    > A famous example of someone operating legally under local law, but who got prosecuted for having merely a website accessible in another country, was Kim Dotcom. That's a pretty shit example, given everything that happened around that case.
    • mirimir 11y ago
      Lesson there is not to piss off the US IP industry ;)