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--I'm not a great marketer or salesman, but I can't get great marketers or salesmen as one of the masses posting vague promises about equity, especially not in

by kls 17y ago

--I'm not a great marketer or salesman, but I can't get great marketers or salesmen as one of the masses posting vague promises about equity, especially not in "bad" job markets. You said it right here, If you don't get them to the front door you will never invite them in for tea. If you are not good at you either need to find someone or you are going to have to get some books and get good at it. I used to get so mad at the fact that the sales and marketing guys where treated like kings while the developers (the guys building the sell-able product) where treated like their contribution was marginal. It took the hammer of experience on the anvil of time to beat in to me why this was. Getting the customer is more important than the product you sell them. See for a long time I was of the superior engineering mindset, but as the markets have show time and time again the superior product does not win unless it is complemented with a superior sales and marketing force. (Brutal Honesty) Your problem is you do not value sales and marketing and feel that it is not worthy of you time until you do you will remain in your situation as you will have only half efforts and false starts. If I where you I would write a simple eBook or make some simple product, I am talking about a weeks worth of your time to build no more. And then I would market the hell out of it. The point is not to make allot of money but to teach you the value of marketing and to appreciate it. You need to blog about your product, used adWords, affiliates do it all everything you can think of you need to honestly sell your item for 1 month.

cookiecaper 17y ago
I value sales and marketing. The problem is that I try to sell and market things and it doesn't work, and I get discouraged and quit. What is there to blog about about my product? Doing that just seems so bottom-of-the-barrel marketer to me. I have put effort into marketing things before. Most of my projects have not been up-front money-makers (i.e., they weren't projects with a traditional give me $30 and I give you this program model), so affiliate marketing wasn't possible in that way, but one of my new products is, so I will see how affiliate marketing works out there. But besides that, I don't really know what to do. I don't have much money for ads on Google, and they don't seem effective anyway. I would love to get marginal success on an eBook or something. I think it would help restore my faith a little bit, and help me believe that it is possible for me to make a dent again. I've just been beaten down and had my expectations fall short for so long that I feel like there's no hope in any of that.

by kls 17y ago

cookiecaper 17y ago

I value sales and marketing. The problem is that I try to sell and market things and it doesn't work, and I get discouraged and quit. What is there to blog about about my product? Doing that just seems so bottom-of-the-barrel marketer to me. I have put effort into marketing things before. Most of my projects have not been up-front money-makers (i.e., they weren't projects with a traditional give me $30 and I give you this program model), so affiliate marketing wasn't possible in that way, but one of my new products is, so I will see how affiliate marketing works out there. But besides that, I don't really know what to do. I don't have much money for ads on Google, and they don't seem effective anyway. I would love to get marginal success on an eBook or something. I think it would help restore my faith a little bit, and help me believe that it is possible for me to make a dent again. I've just been beaten down and had my expectations fall short for so long that I feel like there's no hope in any of that.