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Boxers and other people doing martial arts competitively have always known this. There has been a "walking around weight" concept since I can remember. Maintain

by blfr 11y ago

Boxers and other people doing martial arts competitively have always known this. There has been a "walking around weight" concept since I can remember. Maintaining lower or, even more importantly in that context, higher weight takes concentrated effort. BTW it's a really weird post-Christian belief that there is some you apart from your body and it can do things against your will.

emodendroket 11y ago
http://biblehub.com/matthew/26-41.htm http://biblehub.com/matthew/26-41.htm Is it?
varelse 11y ago
Extending the Christian motif and treating obesity as a sin, one could consider the extra work needed to keep off the weight as penance, no? I'm smelling a new California quack religion(tm) already.
- pjc50 11y ago
  It's called 'weightwatchers', and it allocates sin points to food as a simplified form of calorie counting. Participants go to confessional weigh-ins weekly.
  - varelse 11y ago
    So add penance points for daily exercise milestones as measured by a fitness tracker and it'll be the next thing(tm), no?
pjc50 11y ago
there is some you apart from your body I wouldn't describe it as 'weird' but a lot of people find it unsettling that it's generally understood that the 'I' that makes conscious plans is a fairly thin layer on top of (poorly understood) consciousness, and that much of what humans do is subconscious conditioned behaviour. Below the brain is a set of autonomous systems and homeostatic mechanisms, like the leptin one mentioned in the article regulating hunger.
tim333 11y ago
>weird post-Christian belief that there is some you apart from your body The body/mind have a lot of different parts doing different things. In the article the folks conscious minds tried to lose weight and the body's mechanisms tried to regain it. Not sure that's that weird?
- jukkasarasti 11y ago
  I totally agree. Lots of parts of the body are in conflict at any given time. For example, visual stimuli "compete" for cognitive processing. There's no unified "you", so it makes sense to say that part of you is trying to lose weight while another part is trying to gain it. It's certainly not dualism in the Christian sense, but the idea that the mind is made up of many semi-independent agents has been around since at least the 80s, probably earlier.

by blfr 11y ago

emodendroket 11y ago

http://biblehub.com/matthew/26-41.htm http://biblehub.com/matthew/26-41.htm Is it?

varelse 11y ago

Extending the Christian motif and treating obesity as a sin, one could consider the extra work needed to keep off the weight as penance, no? I'm smelling a new California quack religion(tm) already.

pjc50 11y ago
It's called 'weightwatchers', and it allocates sin points to food as a simplified form of calorie counting. Participants go to confessional weigh-ins weekly.
- varelse 11y ago
  So add penance points for daily exercise milestones as measured by a fitness tracker and it'll be the next thing(tm), no?

pjc50 11y ago

there is some you apart from your body I wouldn't describe it as 'weird' but a lot of people find it unsettling that it's generally understood that the 'I' that makes conscious plans is a fairly thin layer on top of (poorly understood) consciousness, and that much of what humans do is subconscious conditioned behaviour. Below the brain is a set of autonomous systems and homeostatic mechanisms, like the leptin one mentioned in the article regulating hunger.

tim333 11y ago

>weird post-Christian belief that there is some you apart from your body The body/mind have a lot of different parts doing different things. In the article the folks conscious minds tried to lose weight and the body's mechanisms tried to regain it. Not sure that's that weird?

jukkasarasti 11y ago
I totally agree. Lots of parts of the body are in conflict at any given time. For example, visual stimuli "compete" for cognitive processing. There's no unified "you", so it makes sense to say that part of you is trying to lose weight while another part is trying to gain it. It's certainly not dualism in the Christian sense, but the idea that the mind is made up of many semi-independent agents has been around since at least the 80s, probably earlier.