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It's not that conservatism is hateful, but that the brand of conservatism propagating on Reddit is a particularly hateful one.
by Pxtl 11y ago
It's not that conservatism is hateful, but that the brand of conservatism propagating on Reddit is a particularly hateful one.
- mistermann 11y agoIt may not be obvious, and not everyone participating is aware of it, but there is a lot of parody going on in /r/the_donald. I think the prime motivation is disgust at how deeply political correctness has permeated our culture. What this all morphs into if (when) he wins the election remains to be seen. I'm both excited and scared to find out.
- Pxtl 11y ago> "I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase 'In these days of political correctness…' talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, 'That’s not actually anything to do with "political correctness". That’s just treating other people with respect.'Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase 'politically correct' wherever we could with 'treating other people with respect', and it made me smile." -- Neil Gaiman. http://www.upworthy.com/what-political-correctness-does-and-doesnt-mean http://www.upworthy.com/what-political-correctness-does-and-...
- mistermann 11y agoYes that certainly sounds very nice (pretending that political correctness is only about "being nice"), but in my opinion is an excellent example of the problem. Some topics are going to hurt people's feelings, there's no getting around it, so if "treating people with respect" is an absolute, then it is in many scenarios outright censorship of ideas. The article you links claims that is simply not true but offers absolutely nothing to substantiate that claim. I find this type of reasoning pretty common on the left.
- favoritethings 11y agohttp://i.imgur.com/dmgpS.png http://i.imgur.com/dmgpS.png
- gherkin0 11y agoYou can see that process in action on metafilter.com. There, terms like "treating people with respect" are basically euphemisms for a continually narrowing set of opinions-treated-as-fact. You can't go against them without being dog-piled and probably banned (more or less for the reaction your disagreement caused in others). That hasn't happened to me, but I've seen it happen enough to not want to bother.
- eropple 11y agoEh. People used to say /pol/ and /k/ were parody, too. They don't say that anymore.
- Pxtl 11y agoAlso, Weev. Remember how he was just a troll? http://gawker.com/ipad-hacker-and-troll-weev-is-now-a-straight-up-white-1641763761 http://gawker.com/ipad-hacker-and-troll-weev-is-now-a-straig... Straight up swastika tattoo.
- ak_wa 11y agoSince when was /k/ parody?
- eropple 11y agoI never thought it was. But its defenders and minimizers used to tell me that the folks who gave it its reputation and its denizens their nickname were "in on the joke."
- ak_wa 11y agoIts entire culture is in its own special way a joke, from the love of Soviet everything, to the nagant-bolt-as-a-prostate-massager, to the skinwalker stories - and each of these is made even funnier the more that it gets taken over the top. IAmTheStrielok becoming famous from swallowing a DU bullet and nearly dying from radiation poisoning, for example. In that way, sure, layers of irony, inside jokes, etc. But in the end, it's all just memes - superficial board culture used as flavoring for the very real and serious discussions about all things weapon-related.
- eropple 11y agoI was referring more to the openly and unapologetically racist aspects of the board. "It's just memes" isn't an excuse for some of the vile shit that has leaked out of there over its history to the point where they're called /k/lansmen for a reason.