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Any ideas on how this is different from compose.io's offering: https://compose.io/postgresql/ https://compose.io/postgresql/? Hourly billing?

by tango12 10y ago

Gigablah 10y ago
It's 15 times cheaper ($23 vs $353 monthly for 4GB RAM). Assuming the pricing on that page doesn't change too much.
- markvdb 10y ago
  Cheaper, but does it also provide value? For non-critical things, OVH provide relatively good value for money. For critical things, I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. OVH is a dysfunctional company that somehow turns a profit. We almost lost our company's domain name twice due to their incompetence. We paid OVH for the renewal of our company's domain name several weeks before its expiration. This domain hosted our google apps for business and more. We received an invoice and bank statements for that. OVH never renewed with the registry. We only got to know about this because of a standard email warning from the country's registry (not OVH as a registrar) itself about quarantaine and expiry! We spent over eight hours over several days talking to OVH. I have been able to verify that the problem was on the side of OVH only, and not on the registry's side at all. In the end, we made a direct payment to the registry to make sure the domain was not deleted.
  - Veratyr 10y ago
    To offer an anecdote to counter an anecdote, I'm using OVH proper as well as SoYouStart, one of their "developer" brands and I've had zero issues with either.
  - iMerNibor 10y ago
    I've been using ovh (proper OVH brand) for years and the only issues I've had recently was a service without an SLA which I foolishly used without a failover in a different dc (load balancing ips had an outage for ~5h recently) Other than that they've been top notch, support is slow, but the non-human things are working as advertised
  - elnappo 10y ago
    My VPS at OVH lost IPv6 connectivity four days ago... No one seems to care...
paukiatwee 10y ago
I believe OVH offering will be cheaper, and hourly billing but only available in Europe. While compose.io's offering have more locations (US, Europe, Asia, etc). It is good to see more and more PostgreSQL as Service offering.
- markvdb 10y ago
  OVH have data centres and dedicated support staff in .ca too.
merb 10y ago
Actually compose.io is HA (Highly Available) while the runabove isn't, so thats just not a good comparsion. It would roughly compare to AWS RDS (just that you can't) kill the instance after a half month and only pay half the month. Then AWS would've been on 15 USD ~ 13 Euro with 1 GB Memory and 16 GB Disk, compared to: paasdb-1g that's a lot more, but RDS is really solid even on a Single Node, so it's hard to say if you get the same quality for just 6 Euro. It could be true, but it doesn't need to be true.
- sethd 10y ago
  Actually AWS RDS offers High Availability[1] at a higher price from their single AZ deployments. I've been using it for quite awhile with no issues so far. Compose looks much more expensive than RDS with multi-AZ. [1] http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/Concepts.MultiAZ.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/Concep...
  - merb 10y ago
    we are using that as well however this post was about single nodes so compose doesn't offer a single node and I wanted to point it out that there is AWS RDS which offers a single node.
manigandham 10y ago
Compose.io does hourly billing and has multiple locations on multiple cloud providers with HA built-in. It's a very clean and well done system but gets expensive quickly.
_Codemonkeyism 10y ago
For some it might be important, that - I assume - OVH is in the EU and compose.io is in the US. Some of my clients care at least.
- karambahh 10y ago
  As some said, OVH has datacenters in Quebec, Canada. They plan to open several new ones in the coming months in the US (I think California has been officially annouced) and others countries are planned. They raised several hundreds millons of syndicated loans in 2014/2015, to build additional capacity in North America and Europe. Rumors[1] of potential asian & australian locations also abound, but no clear sign of it yet. [1]http://www.nextinpact.com/news/98651-ovh-mise-sur-personnalisation-avec-myovh-et-nouveaux-datacenters.htm http://www.nextinpact.com/news/98651-ovh-mise-sur-personnali...
  - _Codemonkeyism 10y ago
    I'm mainly interested in EU SaaS (because being in the EU). For EU companies - the verdict is still out - EU locations of US companies might not be enough. One reason why Microsoft lets Azure in Germany be run by Dt. Telekom.
    - karambahh 10y ago
      Many of our customers start including request to the effect of "hosting in the EU, preferably operated by a EU based company". AFAIK, one of the reasons OVH had for not setting shop in the US a few years back, but choosing Canada instead was to not expose its flank to possible actions by US agencies. They even feared "contamination" to their EU based datacenters. I guess either the law has changed or their lawyers found their way through the arcanes of international law, since they are now officialy planning to open a datacenter in the US.
  - shimon_e 10y ago
    I got an email survey from OVH for an Asia / Australian DC a few weeks ago.
hackerboos 10y ago
https://www.databaselabs.io/ https://www.databaselabs.io/ are also a good alternative - especially if you host your site on Digital Ocean.

Any ideas on how this is different from compose.io's offering: https://compose.io/postgresql/ https://compose.io/postgresql/? Hourly billing?

by tango12 10y ago

Any ideas on how this is different from compose.io's offering: https://compose.io/postgresql/ https://compose.io/postgresql/? Hourly billing?

Gigablah 10y ago

It's 15 times cheaper ($23 vs $353 monthly for 4GB RAM). Assuming the pricing on that page doesn't change too much.

markvdb 10y ago
Cheaper, but does it also provide value? For non-critical things, OVH provide relatively good value for money. For critical things, I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. OVH is a dysfunctional company that somehow turns a profit. We almost lost our company's domain name twice due to their incompetence. We paid OVH for the renewal of our company's domain name several weeks before its expiration. This domain hosted our google apps for business and more. We received an invoice and bank statements for that. OVH never renewed with the registry. We only got to know about this because of a standard email warning from the country's registry (not OVH as a registrar) itself about quarantaine and expiry! We spent over eight hours over several days talking to OVH. I have been able to verify that the problem was on the side of OVH only, and not on the registry's side at all. In the end, we made a direct payment to the registry to make sure the domain was not deleted.
- Veratyr 10y ago
  To offer an anecdote to counter an anecdote, I'm using OVH proper as well as SoYouStart, one of their "developer" brands and I've had zero issues with either.
- iMerNibor 10y ago
  I've been using ovh (proper OVH brand) for years and the only issues I've had recently was a service without an SLA which I foolishly used without a failover in a different dc (load balancing ips had an outage for ~5h recently) Other than that they've been top notch, support is slow, but the non-human things are working as advertised
- elnappo 10y ago
  My VPS at OVH lost IPv6 connectivity four days ago... No one seems to care...

paukiatwee 10y ago

I believe OVH offering will be cheaper, and hourly billing but only available in Europe. While compose.io's offering have more locations (US, Europe, Asia, etc). It is good to see more and more PostgreSQL as Service offering.

markvdb 10y ago
OVH have data centres and dedicated support staff in .ca too.

merb 10y ago

Actually compose.io is HA (Highly Available) while the runabove isn't, so thats just not a good comparsion. It would roughly compare to AWS RDS (just that you can't) kill the instance after a half month and only pay half the month. Then AWS would've been on 15 USD ~ 13 Euro with 1 GB Memory and 16 GB Disk, compared to: paasdb-1g that's a lot more, but RDS is really solid even on a Single Node, so it's hard to say if you get the same quality for just 6 Euro. It could be true, but it doesn't need to be true.

sethd 10y ago
Actually AWS RDS offers High Availability[1] at a higher price from their single AZ deployments. I've been using it for quite awhile with no issues so far. Compose looks much more expensive than RDS with multi-AZ. [1] http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/Concepts.MultiAZ.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/Concep...
- merb 10y ago
  we are using that as well however this post was about single nodes so compose doesn't offer a single node and I wanted to point it out that there is AWS RDS which offers a single node.

manigandham 10y ago

Compose.io does hourly billing and has multiple locations on multiple cloud providers with HA built-in. It's a very clean and well done system but gets expensive quickly.

_Codemonkeyism 10y ago

For some it might be important, that - I assume - OVH is in the EU and compose.io is in the US. Some of my clients care at least.

karambahh 10y ago
As some said, OVH has datacenters in Quebec, Canada. They plan to open several new ones in the coming months in the US (I think California has been officially annouced) and others countries are planned. They raised several hundreds millons of syndicated loans in 2014/2015, to build additional capacity in North America and Europe. Rumors[1] of potential asian & australian locations also abound, but no clear sign of it yet. [1]http://www.nextinpact.com/news/98651-ovh-mise-sur-personnalisation-avec-myovh-et-nouveaux-datacenters.htm http://www.nextinpact.com/news/98651-ovh-mise-sur-personnali...
- _Codemonkeyism 10y ago
  I'm mainly interested in EU SaaS (because being in the EU). For EU companies - the verdict is still out - EU locations of US companies might not be enough. One reason why Microsoft lets Azure in Germany be run by Dt. Telekom.
  - karambahh 10y ago
    Many of our customers start including request to the effect of "hosting in the EU, preferably operated by a EU based company". AFAIK, one of the reasons OVH had for not setting shop in the US a few years back, but choosing Canada instead was to not expose its flank to possible actions by US agencies. They even feared "contamination" to their EU based datacenters. I guess either the law has changed or their lawyers found their way through the arcanes of international law, since they are now officialy planning to open a datacenter in the US.
- shimon_e 10y ago
  I got an email survey from OVH for an Asia / Australian DC a few weeks ago.

hackerboos 10y ago

https://www.databaselabs.io/ https://www.databaselabs.io/ are also a good alternative - especially if you host your site on Digital Ocean.