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You seem to be fighting a battle on several fronts, our thread was about opposition to using polymer over paper, nothing at all about who's on what bill. That

You seem to be fighting a battle on several fronts, our thread was about opposition to using polymer over paper, nothing at all about who's on what bill. That said, I find it not at all surprising that you, identifying as a right-leaning person, dismiss all scientific surveys and studies as leftist propaganda. That's a common calling card of the Tea Party. I didn't link to all Tea Party sites because I didn't want you to claim I was only linking to fringe websites. Seems it wouldn't matter what I linked to. Facts don't have much sway over belief. Edit: actually two of my sources were Tea Party sites, not one, and anti-vaccine movement is rather bipartisan - that doesn't mean loud voices in the Tea Party aren't strongly anti-vaccine. Read the articles linked. http://www.vice.com/read/weird-politics-of-anti-vaxxers-203 http://www.vice.com/read/weird-politics-of-anti-vaxxers-203

protomyth 10y ago
> dismiss all scientific surveys and studies as leftist propaganda I don't, I dismiss certain biased reporters. I have a great love of science, and have had to deal with scientific (and not so scientific social) studies for years. I believe that it is very important to understand the manner and methods of any study. > That's a common calling card of the Tea Party. That's common FUD from people trying to demean others. > I didn't link to all Tea Party sites because I didn't want you to claim I was only linking to fringe websites. Pretty sad logic when you don't actually ask people what their specific beliefs are but instead pick websites with a party to promote and people to dismiss. > Seems it wouldn't matter what I linked to. Facts don't have much sway over belief. Facts are very important, hearsay not so much. I'm getting a little sick of these political hit articles being taken as facts. > anti-vaccine movement is rather bipartisan Anti-vaccine, as I pointed out unlike your original accusation, has some narrow demographics (rich educated liberal, various narrow religions) and using it any political argument is really pushing it. It also wraps a lot of beliefs about people vs state in a dense heart-breaking package. It probably flared a bit this year since the flu shots didn't seem to select the correct viruses for this year in certain areas. I'm really done with this, you want to demonize me by telling me what I believe, and I was just interested in polymer money and happy Harriet Tubman is going to be replacing a foul man on the $20. I do notice you didn't bother to answer any of the things I pointed out, but I guess never go off the attack is a fine strategy.
- themartorana 10y ago
  I didn't tell you what you believe. I told you what a majority (or vocal minority) of Tea Party people believe. You can dismiss it six ways from Sunday but it doesn't make it less true. Parties have platforms, not everyone in the party is 100% on board with them, but major, world-renowned journals and journalists reporting on facts that don't fit your worldview seem to be bothersome to you. They're still no less facts. In any case, I'm also done. This is a circular conversation, obviously going nowhere.

protomyth 10y ago

> dismiss all scientific surveys and studies as leftist propaganda I don't, I dismiss certain biased reporters. I have a great love of science, and have had to deal with scientific (and not so scientific social) studies for years. I believe that it is very important to understand the manner and methods of any study. > That's a common calling card of the Tea Party. That's common FUD from people trying to demean others. > I didn't link to all Tea Party sites because I didn't want you to claim I was only linking to fringe websites. Pretty sad logic when you don't actually ask people what their specific beliefs are but instead pick websites with a party to promote and people to dismiss. > Seems it wouldn't matter what I linked to. Facts don't have much sway over belief. Facts are very important, hearsay not so much. I'm getting a little sick of these political hit articles being taken as facts. > anti-vaccine movement is rather bipartisan Anti-vaccine, as I pointed out unlike your original accusation, has some narrow demographics (rich educated liberal, various narrow religions) and using it any political argument is really pushing it. It also wraps a lot of beliefs about people vs state in a dense heart-breaking package. It probably flared a bit this year since the flu shots didn't seem to select the correct viruses for this year in certain areas. I'm really done with this, you want to demonize me by telling me what I believe, and I was just interested in polymer money and happy Harriet Tubman is going to be replacing a foul man on the $20. I do notice you didn't bother to answer any of the things I pointed out, but I guess never go off the attack is a fine strategy.

themartorana 10y ago
I didn't tell you what you believe. I told you what a majority (or vocal minority) of Tea Party people believe. You can dismiss it six ways from Sunday but it doesn't make it less true. Parties have platforms, not everyone in the party is 100% on board with them, but major, world-renowned journals and journalists reporting on facts that don't fit your worldview seem to be bothersome to you. They're still no less facts. In any case, I'm also done. This is a circular conversation, obviously going nowhere.