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...but I get the fact you have no clue... You're wrong. But I can only tell you that, I certainly can't make you believe it. The Tea Party is full of climate

• protomyth 10y ago
  I love the Dan Grossman's HN Replies, but I really got to learn not to check it before I go to bed. For a discussion on why someone would want / not want an American hero on a currency, I find this discussion to be about as fun as the SDA stuff earlier in the year. Only one of your sources is an actual Tea Party organization and the rest have printed some poorly researched crud about any group right of center. I guess the Jay Leno principle of finding the fringe of a crowd and asking questions to make fun on TV works fine for newspapers. The one is basically the old libertarian thought on currency. I also love how the title of your reference [2] actually contradicts what you say about it. As to [4], most anti-vaxers are well off liberals while the right has some religious folks, the rest of the conservatives do what our doctors tell us. I wonder if Speaker Tip O'Neill would say about obstructions given he shut down the government 14 times. But I guess I should reply in-kind, that's what we do after all. The President we are replacing on the $20 was a Democrat with a horrendous record on money and Native Americans. A Democratic President re-segregated the Federal Government{1} and allowed the biggest KKK rally in DC. President Truman was a paid member of the KKK ($10 membership fee), and let's not forget Senator Byrd more recently. I could go on, but you get the point and I would hate to stray from why the choice of Harriet Tubman is so important by bringing up such things as Democrats having supported for President a person who allowed a woman to suffocate in a submerged car{2}. As to the original point of this foolishness, the conservatives, Republicans, and Tea Party folks I follow on social media are extremely pleased to have a genocidal Democrat President replaced by a deeply-religious, gun-toting, Republican, African-American woman{3} whose story really needs to be told. Many would love the bill to feature the drawing from the cover of Harriet Tubman, conductor on the Underground Railroad 1st Harper Trophy ed. by Ann Petry{4}. 1} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson 2} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident#Testimony_and_cause_of_death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident#Testim... 3} http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/harriet-tubman-was-republican http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/harriet-tubman... (although being Mother Jones, he is a bit bitter about the actual facts) 4} https://openlibrary.org/books/OL3702580M/Harriet_Tubman_conductor_on_the_Underground_Railroad https://openlibrary.org/books/OL3702580M/Harriet_Tubman_cond...
  • themartorana 10y ago
    You seem to be fighting a battle on several fronts, our thread was about opposition to using polymer over paper, nothing at all about who's on what bill. That said, I find it not at all surprising that you, identifying as a right-leaning person, dismiss all scientific surveys and studies as leftist propaganda. That's a common calling card of the Tea Party. I didn't link to all Tea Party sites because I didn't want you to claim I was only linking to fringe websites. Seems it wouldn't matter what I linked to. Facts don't have much sway over belief. Edit: actually two of my sources were Tea Party sites, not one, and anti-vaccine movement is rather bipartisan - that doesn't mean loud voices in the Tea Party aren't strongly anti-vaccine. Read the articles linked. http://www.vice.com/read/weird-politics-of-anti-vaxxers-203 http://www.vice.com/read/weird-politics-of-anti-vaxxers-203
    • protomyth 10y ago
      > dismiss all scientific surveys and studies as leftist propaganda I don't, I dismiss certain biased reporters. I have a great love of science, and have had to deal with scientific (and not so scientific social) studies for years. I believe that it is very important to understand the manner and methods of any study. > That's a common calling card of the Tea Party. That's common FUD from people trying to demean others. > I didn't link to all Tea Party sites because I didn't want you to claim I was only linking to fringe websites. Pretty sad logic when you don't actually ask people what their specific beliefs are but instead pick websites with a party to promote and people to dismiss. > Seems it wouldn't matter what I linked to. Facts don't have much sway over belief. Facts are very important, hearsay not so much. I'm getting a little sick of these political hit articles being taken as facts. > anti-vaccine movement is rather bipartisan Anti-vaccine, as I pointed out unlike your original accusation, has some narrow demographics (rich educated liberal, various narrow religions) and using it any political argument is really pushing it. It also wraps a lot of beliefs about people vs state in a dense heart-breaking package. It probably flared a bit this year since the flu shots didn't seem to select the correct viruses for this year in certain areas. I'm really done with this, you want to demonize me by telling me what I believe, and I was just interested in polymer money and happy Harriet Tubman is going to be replacing a foul man on the $20. I do notice you didn't bother to answer any of the things I pointed out, but I guess never go off the attack is a fine strategy.