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So, one of the other things I hear people have issues with is the bloat of systemd, about how many other systems and services it has consumed and brought in und

So, one of the other things I hear people have issues with is the bloat of systemd, about how many other systems and services it has consumed and brought in under it's umbrella. With that in mind, what would a better init system look like for you? systemd-lite, with lots of the questionable feature creep removed and really brought back to it's PID1 beginnings? Something back to sysvinit with it's configuration-as-code, but with modern languages and a general freshen up? Or something else entirely? It's previously been very hard to get meaningful discussion about this (on both sides of the divide!) because each side is so highly polarised.

simoncion 10y ago
> With that in mind, what would a better init system look like for you? I'm not the OP, but OpenRC is nice. I'm currently suffering from a round tuit shortage, so I haven't waded through the Debian Jessie discussion to find out why it wasn't a contender for their default init/rc system.
- JoshTriplett 10y ago
  > I'm not the OP, but OpenRC is nice. I'm currently suffering from a round tuit shortage, so I haven't waded through the Debian Jessie discussion to find out why it wasn't a contender for their default init/rc system. It was a contender; it appeared on the Technical Committee ballot alongside sysvinit, upstart, and systemd. Seven of the eight members of the technical committee indicated a preference for OpenRC over sysvinit, just not over upstart or systemd. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=6729;bug=727708 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=6729;bug=7... for the results of the vote.
  - simoncion 10y ago
    Ah! Thanks for that link and the clarification.