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I would imagine people have a hard time lumping: service management, logging, login, network management, etc together as 'one thing'. As a CentOS 7 user, I cert
by michael_h 10y ago
I would imagine people have a hard time lumping: service management, logging, login, network management, etc together as 'one thing'. As a CentOS 7 user, I certainly wouldn't describe it as 'doing it well'.
I think people initially were pretty stoked for the revamped init process, and then it started heaping on a lot more stuff. Poettering's communication style and other history didn't help either.
- chris_wot 10y agoReally? System V init, which is what it replaced, did all of those things. It handles daemons and starts login, depending on the runlevel, and the startup scripts turn on logging, network services - and you use those same scripts to stop and start services. So what in particular, other than Lennart's supposed abrasive nature, do you have an issue with? I'm genuinely not following some of this reasoning, at least from a purely technical level. Incidentally, really need to speak to some of the BSD guys about what they think of SysV-style init. Now that could prove to be an interesting flame war :-)
- j3097736 10y agoScripts are just a simple abstraction that allows to manage all kinds of daemons, which allows SysV to happily work with anything it finds in the init directories. We give you this thing that replaces half the system with utilities (re)written by us, but hey don't complain you're free use something else!
- chris_wot 10y agoSo that's your argument? That it's different?