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Skimming through the top bunch of comments doesn't reveal much... is his comment "plain wrong" as in it isn't a large group of people? Or they aren't in the US?

Skimming through the top bunch of comments doesn't reveal much... is his comment "plain wrong" as in it isn't a large group of people? Or they aren't in the US? Or they aren't paying? Or it isn't a virtual pop star? Or it wasn't created by Japanese businessmen? Or reality isn't as strange as fiction?

alexvoda 11y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=11602544&goto=item%3Fid%3D11601706 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=11602544&goto=item%3Fi... summed things pretty well. It is wrong in the assumptions it makes. For your questions in particular. - Yes, this was a concert (with paid tickets), in the US, attended by a large group of people. - Yes and no, Miku is often called a Virtual pop star but that is a misnomer if by virtual pop star you mean anything else than just a fictional character who is a popular singer. It is just like saying Harry Potter is a wizard. - It depends on your meaning of create. Miku was indeed created by Crypton. But what they created is nothing more than a voicebank for the vocal synthesis software Vocaloid, given it a name and commissioned someone to create the box art for the product. Everything else about Miku (her personality, likes, dislikes, hobbies, friendships, rivalries, clothes, the songs she sings, etc.) was made by fans. Miku is by no means controlled by anyone. Crypton, who have the original trademark for the character have given everyone the right to create what they want with the character. Through the fan art you make (songs, animations, fan fics, etc.) you have as much control on Miku as anyone else. There is no canon version of the Vocaloids. Vocaloid is the vocal synthesis software created by Yamaha. The software uses voice banks usually provided by third parties. Each voice bank usually has a character associated. These characters are collectively called the Vocaloids. Hatsune Miku is one of the characters for one of the voice banks. It has nothing to do with all the visuals. Fans just created 3D animation software for crating animations with the characters. These animations were eventually used to create the concerts. Crypton, being the original trademark holder started providing these concerts to fans who requested them using fan made songs, fan made costumes and fan made choreographies. - I leave the last question about the strangeness of reality to you.
- Animats 11y ago
  Yes. It's all synthesized, and mostly by fans. The Vocaloid software is for sale, for about $100.[1] Creating a new Vocaloid voice still requires a live singer, who must sing a long list of phrases. It's not a direct voice synthesis. Full singing synthesizers exist, but as yet are not as good. [1] http://sonicwire.com/product/vocaloid/special/mikuv3e http://sonicwire.com/product/vocaloid/special/mikuv3e
  - Mithaldu 10y ago
    Incorrect, not phrases, syllables and sounds and not very many either, at least for japanese. Things get kind of stupidly large only if you make an english voicebank, because english is highly irregular.

alexvoda 11y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=11602544&goto=item%3Fid%3D11601706 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=11602544&goto=item%3Fi... summed things pretty well. It is wrong in the assumptions it makes. For your questions in particular. - Yes, this was a concert (with paid tickets), in the US, attended by a large group of people. - Yes and no, Miku is often called a Virtual pop star but that is a misnomer if by virtual pop star you mean anything else than just a fictional character who is a popular singer. It is just like saying Harry Potter is a wizard. - It depends on your meaning of create. Miku was indeed created by Crypton. But what they created is nothing more than a voicebank for the vocal synthesis software Vocaloid, given it a name and commissioned someone to create the box art for the product. Everything else about Miku (her personality, likes, dislikes, hobbies, friendships, rivalries, clothes, the songs she sings, etc.) was made by fans. Miku is by no means controlled by anyone. Crypton, who have the original trademark for the character have given everyone the right to create what they want with the character. Through the fan art you make (songs, animations, fan fics, etc.) you have as much control on Miku as anyone else. There is no canon version of the Vocaloids. Vocaloid is the vocal synthesis software created by Yamaha. The software uses voice banks usually provided by third parties. Each voice bank usually has a character associated. These characters are collectively called the Vocaloids. Hatsune Miku is one of the characters for one of the voice banks. It has nothing to do with all the visuals. Fans just created 3D animation software for crating animations with the characters. These animations were eventually used to create the concerts. Crypton, being the original trademark holder started providing these concerts to fans who requested them using fan made songs, fan made costumes and fan made choreographies. - I leave the last question about the strangeness of reality to you.

Animats 11y ago
Yes. It's all synthesized, and mostly by fans. The Vocaloid software is for sale, for about $100.[1] Creating a new Vocaloid voice still requires a live singer, who must sing a long list of phrases. It's not a direct voice synthesis. Full singing synthesizers exist, but as yet are not as good. [1] http://sonicwire.com/product/vocaloid/special/mikuv3e http://sonicwire.com/product/vocaloid/special/mikuv3e
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  Incorrect, not phrases, syllables and sounds and not very many either, at least for japanese. Things get kind of stupidly large only if you make an english voicebank, because english is highly irregular.