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I've used Firefox since about 2001 when it was in beta and I agree with those that say this isn't an improvement. It seems like control. You need Mozilla to app

I've used Firefox since about 2001 when it was in beta and I agree with those that say this isn't an improvement. It seems like control. You need Mozilla to approve of any advanced API you may need access to. It's probably high time to write a libre browser that focuses on being completely customizable. And not focus primarily on speed. I'm bewildered by those who are deadset on that over all else, it just serves into the goals of for-profits who can dump tremendous resources into optimizing to bamboozle away freedom. Freedom doesn't cost millions of dollars. A libre Vivaldi, with a tighter feature scope (no email client etc) is where it would be at.

drdaeman 11y ago
<offtopic rant="yes" sorry="i am"> I always really wanted a browser that'd be just a bunch of programs adhering to UNIX philosophy and then striving for simplicity. I mean, components interacting together by talking to each other through the simplest means available, with simplest protocols possible, and with every component being freely swappable. But without a DIY approach to things - instead, trying to bring a Firefox/Chrome-like experience by default, but being hackable and with everything very loosely coupled under the hood. uzbl is somewhat close, but it's not really portable and still a has a pretty big monolithic webkit engine component, that handles rendering, scripting and networking. </offtopic>
alexvoda 11y ago
I would point you towards this: https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/on-ad-blocking-tracking-and-privacy-in-fiber/ https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/on-ad-blocking-trackin... Unfortunately development is at a standstill right now. More hands on deck are needed. If other people will not participate at first it might not even use CEF as planned. Using CEF would be great because it will eventually allow it to use both Servo and Blink. Also worth mentioning is the other (than Vivaldi) let's recreate classic Opera project: http://otter-browser.org/ http://otter-browser.org/ Of course both of these are very very young projects and aren't really ready to replace Firefox.

drdaeman 11y ago

<offtopic rant="yes" sorry="i am"> I always really wanted a browser that'd be just a bunch of programs adhering to UNIX philosophy and then striving for simplicity. I mean, components interacting together by talking to each other through the simplest means available, with simplest protocols possible, and with every component being freely swappable. But without a DIY approach to things - instead, trying to bring a Firefox/Chrome-like experience by default, but being hackable and with everything very loosely coupled under the hood. uzbl is somewhat close, but it's not really portable and still a has a pretty big monolithic webkit engine component, that handles rendering, scripting and networking. </offtopic>

alexvoda 11y ago

I would point you towards this: https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/on-ad-blocking-tracking-and-privacy-in-fiber/ https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/on-ad-blocking-trackin... Unfortunately development is at a standstill right now. More hands on deck are needed. If other people will not participate at first it might not even use CEF as planned. Using CEF would be great because it will eventually allow it to use both Servo and Blink. Also worth mentioning is the other (than Vivaldi) let's recreate classic Opera project: http://otter-browser.org/ http://otter-browser.org/ Of course both of these are very very young projects and aren't really ready to replace Firefox.