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Hillary Clinton and Electoral Fraud
- cognivore 11y agoUhhh, apparently Spencer Gundert is too young to remember all the other times there have been election fraud (Bush-Florida) and the brew-ha-ha over the crappy voting machines we've had for way too long. Drop in the bucket, buddy.
- dpweb 11y agoCouldn't you digitally sign the source code of these machines and have that verified by officials? Inspection as well. You could stuff a ballot box without the machine if there's no oversight.
- bryanlarsen 11y agoPreviously discussed and debunked yesterday on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11599083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11599083
- cryoshon 11y agonot remotely debunked...
- dsfuoi 11y agoWhy do we even have to leave the house? Everyone should get a government issued digital certificate, and vote using email.
- tootie 11y agoBecause there are still a few million people without a home computer.
- dsfuoi 11y agoThose 1% can visit public issued computers, public wifi, libraries, etc... Internet is a basic human right in most developed countries, this is a non-issue.
- fpgeek 11y agoWe're not talking about most developed countries, we're talking about the United States. The Internet, like many other things that are considered basic human rights in other countries, isn't a basic human right here. You can talk about using libraries and publicly-issues to fill the gaps, but, unfortunately, US politicians know how to game those things. They'll manipulate funding for public computers, change library hours and maybe even relocate libraries to gain a small electoral advantages. And before you say they won't, that's exactly what happens today with polling places, distribution of voting machines and (in states that require photo ID to vote) locations and hours of DMVs (and any other places you can use to get a state-issued photo ID).
- dsfuoi 11y agoIf it is already happening, they switching to certificates is better because you don't need a special voting machine, as every internet access point becomes one. Available in: libraries, coffee places, public wifi, neighbours, friends, mobile phone, etc...
- tootie 11y agoI don't see why politicians would actively oppose something like this. It's more a matter of practicality. There's barely a handful of countries that hold internet access a human right and they still don't have 100% penetration. Just a right that access has to be available. A working computer or smartphone costs money on its own. The US is about 88% which is pretty good, but not 100%. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.P2 http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.P2
- vowelless 11y ago"Why electronic voting is a bad idea" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI
- DennisP 11y agoBecause it's too hard to secure everybody's home computers. A botnet could swing an election.
- dsfuoi 11y agoGood point, I agree. Until we get computer literate humans, we can't really use computers for such things.
- DennisP 11y agoEven with competent computer owners it's a problem. Bruce Schneier once pointed out that, given how much money is spent on presidential elections, we should assume that election hackers have budgets of $100 million. They could easily pay for zero-days. It's not even out of the question that organizations like the NSA could launch attacks, or their counterparts in other countries. It's also a problem for electronic voting machines without paper trails. One researcher several years ago demonstrated a way to make a virus attacking a popular voting machine. Without a way to audit the results, there's no way to know whether this has happened.