> Maybe it isn't the way they're presenting their message; maybe you just don't agree with them. I mostly agree with the FSF position and have defended Stallma

> Maybe it isn't the way they're presenting their message; maybe you just don't agree with them. I mostly agree with the FSF position and have defended Stallman on these pages many a time, donate a little bit to the Free Software Conservancy... but I have to agree with Delmania that the FSF does crap on in an adolescent manner at times. Like making pet nicknames and always using them (eg the 'Swindle'). The way the arguments are presented, it's like preaching to the choir - name-calling and in-jokes aren't exactly a dispassionate presentation of philosophy, and aren't going to win many friends who aren't already inclined that way to begin with. Stallman argues that the name-calling is actually maturity-in-disguise, and that humour is needed in fighting oppression[1]. However, he's wrong about that, and even if he was right, it's shithouse, clumsy humour that is made for the choir, not for the wider audience. [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-call-it-the-swindle.en.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-call-it-the-swindle.en.htm...