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As long as the FSF controls Emacs, GCC, and coreutils they're definitely doing a little more than shouting. I mean they're ‘GNU’ in GNU/Linux, which is a bit m
by PeCaN 11y ago
As long as the FSF controls Emacs, GCC, and coreutils they're definitely doing a little more than shouting.
I mean they're ‘GNU’ in GNU/Linux, which is a bit more widespread¹ than any BSD/Linux type thing.
¹Pretty sure Android/Linux wins in sheer numbers, but GNU/Linux has been historically more important and is deployed in more scenarios than smartphones. But if we consider ‘widespread’ to mean numbers, my statement is false.
- Delmania 11y agoIt's Linux, not GNU/Linux. The other problem is people don't consciously associate Emacs or GCC with GNU or the FSF, they're just tools on a machine.
- cyphar 11y agoIt is GNU/Linux. Claiming that Linux is the most important part of the system is rewriting history (the GNU project started almost a decade before Linux was created).
- jjawssd 11y agoGNU would have gone nowhere without Linux. Do you really think GNU/Hurd would have taken over?
- gkya 11y agoGnu over a BSD kernel could have. Linux was there at the right time.
- pessimizer 11y agoHonesty, Linus has been more important than Linux. Linux was just a student's side project. Linus is a force.
- cyphar 11y agoThere are many other kernels. Hurd is one of them. There's also several free BSD kernels (which were liberated around the same time as Linux was being made). And universities make operating system kernels all the time. Making a kernel is not as big of a deal as creating a fully compatible Unix-like operating system -- which is what the GNU project did. So I don't agree that "GNU would've gone nowhere". If GNU had a kernel before Linus made Linux, then Linux would've gone nowhere.
- PeCaN 11y agoDo you call Android "just Linux" also? There's a bit more to the OS than just the kernel. I dunno, I think people tend to associate Emacs = GPL, Vim = BSD. Same with GCC vs Clang. Oh and Emacs says ‘GNU Emacs’ all over itself, same with the GNU Compiler Collection.