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Let's admit it, we are at the stage where we are discussing nothing but semantics anymore. Anyone who's actually followed and understood the Snowden leaks know

by benevol 10y ago

Let's admit it, we are at the stage where we are discussing nothing but semantics anymore. Anyone who's actually followed and understood the Snowden leaks knows that the government will get all the data it wants, legally or not. And it wants all of it. Unless somebody like Snowden gets elected President and credibly rolls back the surveillance state we have now, we have absolutely no right to privacy anymore and have become completely manipulable.

cgearhart 10y ago
> somebody like Snowden gets elected President It's hard to predict what exact conditions would be required to make a difference, but a privacy/security-aware President is not sufficient. We need a more educated population and congressional representatives (and perhaps supreme court) far more than the presidency. We are headed for something bad with the cavalier way we treat data, the only real question is how terrible the consequences will be when it happens.