3 ms·

I wouldn't even attempt to justify this in a market-based economy...earning as much as you can to take care of yourself and your family and shelter them from th

by cubano 10y ago

I wouldn't even attempt to justify this in a market-based economy...earning as much as you can to take care of yourself and your family and shelter them from the vagaries of life is kinda the point, right? Actors acting in their interest to maximize happiness and well-being is the basis of all modern non-Marxist economies, and every metric related to those goals shows that this albeit-non-perfect-system works pretty damn good. There really isn't any point in rehashing the 160yo Marxism v. Capitalism argument here, I know, but there is almost zero evidence that in a wildly diversified and large society (not Sweden or Denmark, for example), that a government-controlled economy can bring happiness and well-being to its people.

kuschku 10y ago
Wildly diversified and large society? As far as I remember Germany has 1/3rd of the population of the US – and a social democracy very similar to Denmark or Sweden. And Germany has large immigrant populations as well. Could you explain why this concept can work with 80 million people in Germany, but not, say, the 40 million people living in California?
- cubano 10y ago
  Germany is a complex and rather unique blend between both systems, and frankly wasn't really that diverse until rather recently with Merkel's high-volume immigration policies. The US has a plenty of "safety-net socialism" as well, so I'm not sure of your point you are making about CA..a country that almost doubles its national debt ($12t to $20t) in only 8 years is surely doing its best to provide for its people, no? For how many generations is that possible before the country bankrupts itself?
  - kuschku 10y ago
    > frankly wasn't really that diverse until rather recently with Merkel's high-volume immigration policies. That’s not true. The current influx of foreigners is about an order of magnitude smaller than the influx of foreigners from Turkey during the 70s.

by cubano 10y ago

kuschku 10y ago

Wildly diversified and large society? As far as I remember Germany has 1/3rd of the population of the US – and a social democracy very similar to Denmark or Sweden. And Germany has large immigrant populations as well. Could you explain why this concept can work with 80 million people in Germany, but not, say, the 40 million people living in California?

cubano 10y ago
Germany is a complex and rather unique blend between both systems, and frankly wasn't really that diverse until rather recently with Merkel's high-volume immigration policies. The US has a plenty of "safety-net socialism" as well, so I'm not sure of your point you are making about CA..a country that almost doubles its national debt ($12t to $20t) in only 8 years is surely doing its best to provide for its people, no? For how many generations is that possible before the country bankrupts itself?
- kuschku 10y ago
  > frankly wasn't really that diverse until rather recently with Merkel's high-volume immigration policies. That’s not true. The current influx of foreigners is about an order of magnitude smaller than the influx of foreigners from Turkey during the 70s.