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If one consider that exactly opposite is true - gravity actually do exist as a "function" of a matter, but space-time doesn't (especially a curved one) being a

If one consider that exactly opposite is true - gravity actually do exist as a "function" of a matter, but space-time doesn't (especially a curved one) being a conditioning of our "serialized", self-centered perception, everything, it seems, falls to its places.

petewailes 10y ago
I'm pretty sure this doesn't make any sense. How are you explaining away spacetime?
kinai 10y ago
Gravity is not a function of matter, and proving that curved space-time is real is trivial. So not sure where you are going with that idea...
- dschiptsov 10y ago
  Could you, please, give me a link for the proof of existence of time. Not some processes in the Universe, but time itself.
  - Koshkin 10y ago
    You can find a wealth of information at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
    - dschiptsov 10y ago
      I am afraid I don't quite understand you, my friend. Are you trying to suggest that existence of this particular page or any part of its content constitutes the proof of existence of time as an independent from an observer phenomena? May be it somehow related to Kantian view mentioned there about time as a mode of perception, being, as he said, prior to all perceptions, as a condition, but not of observable phenomena, but of sequential mode of perceptual machinery of an observer? But, as far as I know, in Russia "Kant - lokh".
snarfy 10y ago
It was painful, but there was a time when they actually defined equations for the earth being the center of the solar system which matched observations. The equations were a mess, but they managed to force the math into their hypothesis. Then Copernicus came along. Do you still believe the earth is the center of the solar system? I'm sure you can twist the math upside down and get the same results defining gravity as a function of matter instead of as curved space time using some modified newtonian mechanics or such, but do you really believe that's correct?
- dschiptsov 10y ago
  Which experiment proves existence of time (apart from some physical process), especially its slowdown and acceleration, like in famous theoretical example with accelerated clocks? As far as I remember, in the philosophy of science a single contradiction is enough to refute a hypothesis and is the reason to check one's premises.. Some himera made out of math and popular but unproven theories is a himera nevertheless.

petewailes 10y ago

I'm pretty sure this doesn't make any sense. How are you explaining away spacetime?

kinai 10y ago

Gravity is not a function of matter, and proving that curved space-time is real is trivial. So not sure where you are going with that idea...

dschiptsov 10y ago
Could you, please, give me a link for the proof of existence of time. Not some processes in the Universe, but time itself.
- Koshkin 10y ago
  You can find a wealth of information at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
  - dschiptsov 10y ago
    I am afraid I don't quite understand you, my friend. Are you trying to suggest that existence of this particular page or any part of its content constitutes the proof of existence of time as an independent from an observer phenomena? May be it somehow related to Kantian view mentioned there about time as a mode of perception, being, as he said, prior to all perceptions, as a condition, but not of observable phenomena, but of sequential mode of perceptual machinery of an observer? But, as far as I know, in Russia "Kant - lokh".

snarfy 10y ago

It was painful, but there was a time when they actually defined equations for the earth being the center of the solar system which matched observations. The equations were a mess, but they managed to force the math into their hypothesis. Then Copernicus came along. Do you still believe the earth is the center of the solar system? I'm sure you can twist the math upside down and get the same results defining gravity as a function of matter instead of as curved space time using some modified newtonian mechanics or such, but do you really believe that's correct?

dschiptsov 10y ago
Which experiment proves existence of time (apart from some physical process), especially its slowdown and acceleration, like in famous theoretical example with accelerated clocks? As far as I remember, in the philosophy of science a single contradiction is enough to refute a hypothesis and is the reason to check one's premises.. Some himera made out of math and popular but unproven theories is a himera nevertheless.