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For whatever reason lots of people here seem to disagree. Could any of the 4 downvoters clarify in what conceivable scenario would Aaron still be in prison if
by ryanlol 11y ago
For whatever reason lots of people here seem to disagree.
Could any of the 4 downvoters clarify in what conceivable scenario would Aaron still be in prison if he was alive?
Had he pled guilty, he would undoubtedly be out by now. And going to trial obviously wasn't a realistic option considering the plea deals he was offered (BTW If someone here disagrees about that, I'd really like to know why.).
Read:
http://volokh.com/2013/01/14/aaron-swartz-charges/ http://volokh.com/2013/01/14/aaron-swartz-charges/
http://volokh.com/2013/01/16/the-criminal-charges-against-aaron-swartz-part-2-prosecutorial-discretion/ http://volokh.com/2013/01/16/the-criminal-charges-against-aa...
- ryanlol 11y agoThis blanket downvoting is somewhat odd, what is it I'm saying that's so disagreeable? For afaik I've only presented facts about the time Swartz would probably have spent incarcerated.
- maxerickson 11y agoYour first comment is open to interpretation (it doesn't say would not still or in and out of or something like that) so people are reacting pretty much entirely based on their existing emotions. They don't care about analyzing the likely outcome of the case had he lived, it's brought up to share anger and outrage over the injustice.
- throwanem 11y ago> They don't care about analyzing the likely outcome of the case had he lived, it's brought up to share anger and outrage over the injustice. Precisely. He didn't have to kill himself, and if he'd put a bit more forethought into what he was doing, we'd probably be discussing this in a thread around an interview with him rather than with Ms. Elbakyan. But nobody wants to hear that, because it detracts from the story of this generation's Bobby Fischer.
- chris_wot 11y agoFWIW, there was something about the way that comment was phrased that caused me to parse it badly, hence my response. I didn't downvote you, but perhaps it might help to explain the downvotes. Incidentally, this is why I often dislike downvotes by those who don't comment directly on non-troll comments. It doesn't add a damned thing to sensible discourse, it just smacks of punitive actions against those they disagree with. You really notice it on certain topics, like Aaron - but for some reason it really occurs in anything Apple related.
- nightcracker 11y ago> going to trial obviously wasn't a realistic option considering the plea deals he was offered And that's why plea deals are an injustice. The honest are intimidated into felons, and the criminals never face a judge.
- ryanlol 11y agoThey may be, but I think Aarons case is a particularly bad example of such as I don't think there was ever any question of his guilt. The law may not be just, but there's little doubt that he violated it. Considering his charges, Swartz received exceptionally good plea deal offers.