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Sorry, but you are just plain wrong. Snowden revealed that the rabbit hole is very, very deep. The Internet has been being recorded for fifteen years now. Th

Sorry, but you are just plain wrong. Snowden revealed that the rabbit hole is very, very deep. The Internet has been being recorded for fifteen years now. The spy agencies have given themselves free reign over our technology, altering it according to their secret doctrines. Do you think this is just a 'bad practice'? >There aren't radicals being "spirited away" wholesale by a huge technocratic dicatorship using advanced tools of oppression. It's just conspiratal, fantastical cringy nonsense. How would you know? We, the people, no longer have the ability to determine if this ever happens. It's no conspiracy, either: its a fact. The NSA is a sovereign unto itself. I'm sorry to tell you this, but you need to look closer. You are trivializing the truth, which is a heinous apparatus has been constructed in order to control us all.

PlzSnow 11y ago
"a heinous apparatus has been constructed in order to control us all" Sorry, I don't think reasoned debate is possible with you, you're on the fringe extremes with your beliefs. Hope you're feeling more positive today. Take a walk and end enjoy life.
- fit2rule 11y ago
  If you think its acceptable that a secret government agency can inject itself in any technology device, for whatever purpose it sees fit, without any recourse for the citizens of the country it is supposedly 'supporting', that its acceptable for an agency to have the power to spy on everyone who has ever used a computer, cell phone, or any Internet device, for whatever reason it deems suitable, without oversight from the very people from whom it derives such power, then there really is no decent conversation to be had, here. "Fringe extremes" is just your way of saying 'you don't think what the collective mind wants you to think, why are you not like everyone else', and in that statement you have said more than enough. You don't think its at all disagreeable to have to 'conform to what society thinks' or else .. "you must be mentally ill"? Seriously, examine this position. Its a cult-like mentality that doesn't improve conditions - it simply allows those who have the power to continue to extend it and interfere in every day life. Are you okay with having a shadowy organization, with everyones data, beyond the reach of the people you profess to be a major 'part of' in your collective mind-set? Because I am not. I live in a place where the echoes of tyranny and the heinous information-apparatus it depended on still ring throughout the land. And here you are, safely justifying the creation of a new one, with little consideration for what it truly means that we have no control over the digital domain and its masters, any more. Popular opinion is just one way to justify being too lazy to form ones own ..
  - PlzSnow 11y ago
    "I live in a place where the echoes of tyranny and the heinous information-apparatus it depended on still ring throughout the land." But that place only exists in your head. It's not real. It's spring outside - take a walk amongst the flowers, clear your head and enjoy life a bit.
    - fit2rule 11y ago
      I live about 30 minutes drive from a Nazi concentration camp. Shit is very, very real. If you want to continue the delusion, go ahead. But don't complain when the next US President uses his apparatus for heinous purposes. It won't be so easy to smell the flowers, then.
- dang 11y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines despite our requests to stop.

PlzSnow 11y ago

"a heinous apparatus has been constructed in order to control us all" Sorry, I don't think reasoned debate is possible with you, you're on the fringe extremes with your beliefs. Hope you're feeling more positive today. Take a walk and end enjoy life.

fit2rule 11y ago
If you think its acceptable that a secret government agency can inject itself in any technology device, for whatever purpose it sees fit, without any recourse for the citizens of the country it is supposedly 'supporting', that its acceptable for an agency to have the power to spy on everyone who has ever used a computer, cell phone, or any Internet device, for whatever reason it deems suitable, without oversight from the very people from whom it derives such power, then there really is no decent conversation to be had, here. "Fringe extremes" is just your way of saying 'you don't think what the collective mind wants you to think, why are you not like everyone else', and in that statement you have said more than enough. You don't think its at all disagreeable to have to 'conform to what society thinks' or else .. "you must be mentally ill"? Seriously, examine this position. Its a cult-like mentality that doesn't improve conditions - it simply allows those who have the power to continue to extend it and interfere in every day life. Are you okay with having a shadowy organization, with everyones data, beyond the reach of the people you profess to be a major 'part of' in your collective mind-set? Because I am not. I live in a place where the echoes of tyranny and the heinous information-apparatus it depended on still ring throughout the land. And here you are, safely justifying the creation of a new one, with little consideration for what it truly means that we have no control over the digital domain and its masters, any more. Popular opinion is just one way to justify being too lazy to form ones own ..
- PlzSnow 11y ago
  "I live in a place where the echoes of tyranny and the heinous information-apparatus it depended on still ring throughout the land." But that place only exists in your head. It's not real. It's spring outside - take a walk amongst the flowers, clear your head and enjoy life a bit.
  - fit2rule 11y ago
    I live about 30 minutes drive from a Nazi concentration camp. Shit is very, very real. If you want to continue the delusion, go ahead. But don't complain when the next US President uses his apparatus for heinous purposes. It won't be so easy to smell the flowers, then.
dang 11y ago
We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines despite our requests to stop.