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The problem is that it is actually possible that someone no longer knows the password to some piece of encrypted data. If the government can just hold you indef
by mordocai 10y ago
The problem is that it is actually possible that someone no longer knows the password to some piece of encrypted data. If the government can just hold you indefinitely because they don't believe you then that is a huge issue.
- dllthomas 10y agoIf they can show that you've been using the password regularly, recently, for a while, then not believing a claim to have forgotten seems, if not necessarily correct, at least not absurd. If they can't show that, and the file might not have been accessed since it was created years ago, then I think it's unquestionably wrong to ignore the fallibility of human memory.
- mordocai 10y agoGood luck showing that in many cases. Especially if it is an encrypted external drive. I think in most cases they aren't going to be able to show "beyond reasonable doubt" that a person definitely still knows the password.
- dllthomas 10y agoI don't disagree, but I don't think that is a sufficient reason to bear the kind of risk of indefinitely jailing innocents entailed by not requiring such a showing.
- mordocai 10y agoNecroing this, but the proper thing to do is just don't indefinitely jail people without proof of something rather than "requiring" such a showing(you can't really require it since, barring torture/some kind of mind probe, the person can always sit in jail indefinitely and refuse).
- djloche 10y agoYeah - I lost the password to my DogeCoin wallet within two weeks. I tried all the regular combinations of things. I tried all the unusual combinations of things. I tried old passwords. Gone. Until they have a way to read archived memories...