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I have a distinct feeling these bootcamps are "teaching to the test". I would really like to know what it is like to work with this guy.

by gjolund 10y ago

beamatronic 10y ago
>> He first learned how to code by joining a 12-week coding bootcamp at App Academy, >> He killed his Google interview and was offered a $162,000 a year package. If this is really true, then maybe it's worth going to these coding camps even if you already know how to code and have been doing so for 20 years.
- derptron 10y ago
  What can they teach you that you can't learn on your own?
- gjolund 10y ago
  The ability to interview will only get you so far though. At that rate he would be a colleague of mine, and I wonder if he would actually bring anything to that table. I have worked with plenty of people who come from non-tech backgrounds and are phenomenally productive, and he may be one of those people. Either way I would pay to be a fly on the wall during his 3-month review.
  - beamatronic 10y ago
    I couldn't get past a phone screen with them because they wanted 10 different ways to tell what your current shell is ( from the command line ) and I could only think of 5. Personally, I prefer to code up an algorithm, even if it isn't perfect, and then do instrumented testing; for me the fun part is tweaking and optimizing.
    - stuxnet79 10y ago
      Similar - couldn't make it past the phone screen. Got killed by a DP problem which in hindsight was quite approachable but my CS fundamentals weren't very fresh in my mind at the time.
  - stuxnet79 10y ago
    So in addition to the hazing you have to endure before you work at one of these big tech companies, you also have to face a 3 month review that could very well end up in you being canned? I thought the entire point of the hazing was to prevent false positives? I'd like to know how many Google candidates don't make it past 3 months for "performance reasons".
    - beamatronic 10y ago
      >> you also have to face a 3 month review that could very well end up in you being canned? I think that this (3-ish month review) is true pretty much anywhere, if even as an informal process. edit: clarity

I have a distinct feeling these bootcamps are "teaching to the test". I would really like to know what it is like to work with this guy.

by gjolund 10y ago

I have a distinct feeling these bootcamps are "teaching to the test". I would really like to know what it is like to work with this guy.

beamatronic 10y ago

>> He first learned how to code by joining a 12-week coding bootcamp at App Academy, >> He killed his Google interview and was offered a $162,000 a year package. If this is really true, then maybe it's worth going to these coding camps even if you already know how to code and have been doing so for 20 years.

derptron 10y ago
What can they teach you that you can't learn on your own?
gjolund 10y ago
The ability to interview will only get you so far though. At that rate he would be a colleague of mine, and I wonder if he would actually bring anything to that table. I have worked with plenty of people who come from non-tech backgrounds and are phenomenally productive, and he may be one of those people. Either way I would pay to be a fly on the wall during his 3-month review.
- beamatronic 10y ago
  I couldn't get past a phone screen with them because they wanted 10 different ways to tell what your current shell is ( from the command line ) and I could only think of 5. Personally, I prefer to code up an algorithm, even if it isn't perfect, and then do instrumented testing; for me the fun part is tweaking and optimizing.
  - stuxnet79 10y ago
    Similar - couldn't make it past the phone screen. Got killed by a DP problem which in hindsight was quite approachable but my CS fundamentals weren't very fresh in my mind at the time.
- stuxnet79 10y ago
  So in addition to the hazing you have to endure before you work at one of these big tech companies, you also have to face a 3 month review that could very well end up in you being canned? I thought the entire point of the hazing was to prevent false positives? I'd like to know how many Google candidates don't make it past 3 months for "performance reasons".
  - beamatronic 10y ago
    >> you also have to face a 3 month review that could very well end up in you being canned? I think that this (3-ish month review) is true pretty much anywhere, if even as an informal process. edit: clarity