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And here we have another example of someone who doesn't get it. You're saying that you wouldn't make the mistakes she has made because you'd know better, right

by Nrsolis 10y ago

And here we have another example of someone who doesn't get it. You're saying that you wouldn't make the mistakes she has made because you'd know better, right? You'd use math or logic or any of your abilities to make the CORRECT choice, right? You're completely missing the fact that it's not YOU that's got the burden of making those correct choices, but HER. And she is having a hard time doing it despite her best efforts. Somewhere in the world, there is a guy judging you for screwing up because HE knew better than you did when you made that last mistake you made. And boy....THAT one was a WHOPPER. What were you THINKING?!?!

whatok 10y ago
> You're saying that you wouldn't make the mistakes she has made because you'd know better, right? You'd use math or logic or any of your abilities to make the CORRECT choice, right? No, I'm saying that was red flag number one. She then made a series of mistakes that led to her current situation. All of the facts were available to her when she signed up for the job and instead of accepting personal responsibility, she pointed the finger at her employer. She would have a leg to stand on had she been a long-term employee that got caught up in rising rents or something similar but that was not the case. I have empathy for everyone who gets caught up in bad situations that are out of their control. I do not have any for someone who willfully enters into a situation and blames someone else for the outcome. If I'm unable to sustain my current state of living with a job I voluntarily chose, how is it anyone else's fault but my own? > Somewhere in the world, there is a guy judging you for screwing up because HE knew better than you did when you made that last mistake you made. And boy....THAT one was a WHOPPER. What were you THINKING?!?! When I make mistakes, I accept responsibility, learn from them, and try not to make them again. I do not try to publicly shame someone else who could at best be described as indirectly contributing to my situation. I'm quite okay with anyone judging me because I only have control over what I do in a situation and if I let something like that affect me, I could potentially miss out on gaining experience that can only be learned through failure.
- Nrsolis 10y ago
  That's YOU bub. That's not HER. YOU learned to accept responsibility. SHE didn't. YOU learned to acknowledge your mistakes. SHE didn't. Now she IS learning and she's learning it the HARD way instead of the EASY way, namely, by haranguing from the Internet Mob. Buddy, you need to really think about this. Are you so callous that you can't see that there wasn't a single person in this girl's life that showed her how to stand on her own two feet? She'll either learn or she won't. It's going to be hard for her either way. Are you so indifferent to someone's struggle that you can't at a minimum think about how hard it must be to live their life and be thankful you're not similarly burdened?
  - whatok 10y ago
    Sure, she's learning by moving to another extremely expensive place that could once again easily lead to financial ruin. Whose fault will it be then? I'm not disagreeing on the fact that she had a tough childhood. All I'm saying is that blaming other people for your shortcomings should not be encouraged. You're talking about a struggle when I see a young white college-educated woman. Do you know how far ahead that puts her in this country? Struggle is getting pregnant in high school and living in section 8 housing without a chance to dig yourself out of it. Got it bub?
    - Nrsolis 10y ago
      Not every person's struggle is the same and comparing two people who are struggling just misses the point entirely. That lady who is stuck in Section 8 housing with a newborn you just mentioned? She's WAY better than the DRUG-ADDICTED mother on the street who has to prostitute herself to support her habit. That drug-addicted prostitute? WAY better than the victims of human-trafficking here in the USA and abroad. Those victims of human-trafficking? THEY are way better off than the women of places like sub-Saharan Africa who are quite literally dying of starvation and disease that could be treated with simple low-cost medications if not for the enormous problems of distribution and diversion. So, since you're so hell bent on piling-on to this mob attacking this woman, why not instead have a modicum of sympathy who might be struggling to keep from being their own worst enemy? Is that so much harder to do than to have sympathy for the drug-addicted woman or the runaway who is now a human slave?
emjoes1 10y ago
Yep, just had this actually happen to me. Blew up on someone in the company parking garage and did not know he was a friend of the firm. He in turn told my boss who then brought it to me. Ended up filing an 'incident' which will prohibit any raises and limit bonus for the next year. I did not loose my job or end up poor but I bet that guy is thinking "what an idiot, what were you thinking" not knowing how this did impact me. Prob a poor anecdote but damn did I learn my lesson. Especially since it impacted me financially. We all make mistakes, financially or otherwise. The point is that we should learn from them and not keep repeating them.

by Nrsolis 10y ago

whatok 10y ago

> You're saying that you wouldn't make the mistakes she has made because you'd know better, right? You'd use math or logic or any of your abilities to make the CORRECT choice, right? No, I'm saying that was red flag number one. She then made a series of mistakes that led to her current situation. All of the facts were available to her when she signed up for the job and instead of accepting personal responsibility, she pointed the finger at her employer. She would have a leg to stand on had she been a long-term employee that got caught up in rising rents or something similar but that was not the case. I have empathy for everyone who gets caught up in bad situations that are out of their control. I do not have any for someone who willfully enters into a situation and blames someone else for the outcome. If I'm unable to sustain my current state of living with a job I voluntarily chose, how is it anyone else's fault but my own? > Somewhere in the world, there is a guy judging you for screwing up because HE knew better than you did when you made that last mistake you made. And boy....THAT one was a WHOPPER. What were you THINKING?!?! When I make mistakes, I accept responsibility, learn from them, and try not to make them again. I do not try to publicly shame someone else who could at best be described as indirectly contributing to my situation. I'm quite okay with anyone judging me because I only have control over what I do in a situation and if I let something like that affect me, I could potentially miss out on gaining experience that can only be learned through failure.

Nrsolis 10y ago
That's YOU bub. That's not HER. YOU learned to accept responsibility. SHE didn't. YOU learned to acknowledge your mistakes. SHE didn't. Now she IS learning and she's learning it the HARD way instead of the EASY way, namely, by haranguing from the Internet Mob. Buddy, you need to really think about this. Are you so callous that you can't see that there wasn't a single person in this girl's life that showed her how to stand on her own two feet? She'll either learn or she won't. It's going to be hard for her either way. Are you so indifferent to someone's struggle that you can't at a minimum think about how hard it must be to live their life and be thankful you're not similarly burdened?
- whatok 10y ago
  Sure, she's learning by moving to another extremely expensive place that could once again easily lead to financial ruin. Whose fault will it be then? I'm not disagreeing on the fact that she had a tough childhood. All I'm saying is that blaming other people for your shortcomings should not be encouraged. You're talking about a struggle when I see a young white college-educated woman. Do you know how far ahead that puts her in this country? Struggle is getting pregnant in high school and living in section 8 housing without a chance to dig yourself out of it. Got it bub?
  - Nrsolis 10y ago
    Not every person's struggle is the same and comparing two people who are struggling just misses the point entirely. That lady who is stuck in Section 8 housing with a newborn you just mentioned? She's WAY better than the DRUG-ADDICTED mother on the street who has to prostitute herself to support her habit. That drug-addicted prostitute? WAY better than the victims of human-trafficking here in the USA and abroad. Those victims of human-trafficking? THEY are way better off than the women of places like sub-Saharan Africa who are quite literally dying of starvation and disease that could be treated with simple low-cost medications if not for the enormous problems of distribution and diversion. So, since you're so hell bent on piling-on to this mob attacking this woman, why not instead have a modicum of sympathy who might be struggling to keep from being their own worst enemy? Is that so much harder to do than to have sympathy for the drug-addicted woman or the runaway who is now a human slave?

emjoes1 10y ago

Yep, just had this actually happen to me. Blew up on someone in the company parking garage and did not know he was a friend of the firm. He in turn told my boss who then brought it to me. Ended up filing an 'incident' which will prohibit any raises and limit bonus for the next year. I did not loose my job or end up poor but I bet that guy is thinking "what an idiot, what were you thinking" not knowing how this did impact me. Prob a poor anecdote but damn did I learn my lesson. Especially since it impacted me financially. We all make mistakes, financially or otherwise. The point is that we should learn from them and not keep repeating them.