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So she can't afford SF.. now she's moving to NYC? I can't understand that logic at all.

by mrbill 10y ago

dkopi 10y ago
She'll have her entire life to live in the suburbs. Some people love big cities and want the experience of living in a big city. Even if difficult to afford. Also - very few places in the US where you can manage without a car and driving.
- refurb 10y ago
  Even if difficult to afford. So she's making a deliberate choice to live in an expensive area because she wants to vs. needs to? Should she be complaining then?
blackguardx 10y ago
I've lived in both places. It is easier to live cheaply in NYC. I think this is because of increased competition. There are a lot more restaurants and little food stores in NYC than SF. Many more poor people live in NYC than SF and there are more businesses that cater to them.
steveklabnik 10y ago
I moved from SF to Brooklyn. Brooklyn is cheaper, or at least, was for me. It's a big place.
- eumoria 10y ago
  I'm in Brooklyn as well some parts are very inexpensive if you're willing to not live in the gentrified fantasyland that most of northern Brooklyn is.
danso 10y ago
I moved from a downtown Manhattan apartment to a Menlo Park converted garage. I pay substantially more for rent and I had to buy a car.
Nrsolis 10y ago
I feel like a lot of people are missing the larger point of this story: BE KIND. Because everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle you know nothing about. I'm not going to excuse her rant or her poor decision making skills as she navigates her way through life. What I am going to sympathize with is the fact that she had a rough start in life and precious few examples around her to show her how to make good vs. bad decisions. I meet plenty of people like this; people who are unprepared for the rush of responsibility they carry when thrust out in the world to care for themselves. Most of us at least know what we should be doing even if we don't always do it. We had an example. I don't think this young woman had that benefit and now she is learning the hard way all of the lessons she should have been learning long ago. So may very well be a spoiled-brat entitled millennial, but I'm more inclined to suggest that her story is a lot more complicated than we've been led to believe, even given what we've learned about her upbringing from this article. (Side note: one of my buddies is now retiring from the US Marine Corps; I didn't find out until I heard from someone planning his retirement party that before he joined the Marines he'd been homeless. When I tell you that he's one of the most inspiring and intelligent people I know, I'm not exaggerating. BE KIND.)
- whatok 10y ago
  > precious few examples around her to show her how to make good vs. bad decisions. I don't need examples to conduct basic arithmetic to show that I cannot afford somewhere to live. There are millions of people with similar or worse upbringing who actually learn something from that upbringing and decide to not do dumb shit that has a high chance of introducing financial ruin.
  - Nrsolis 10y ago
    And here we have another example of someone who doesn't get it. You're saying that you wouldn't make the mistakes she has made because you'd know better, right? You'd use math or logic or any of your abilities to make the CORRECT choice, right? You're completely missing the fact that it's not YOU that's got the burden of making those correct choices, but HER. And she is having a hard time doing it despite her best efforts. Somewhere in the world, there is a guy judging you for screwing up because HE knew better than you did when you made that last mistake you made. And boy....THAT one was a WHOPPER. What were you THINKING?!?!
pnathan 10y ago
NYC outside of Manhattan is cheaper. Transit is better. Better infrastructure. I'd move to NYC over SF purely on cost reasons myself.
lazyant 10y ago
Young, single, with no family obligations and wanting to work in media/comedy? seems the place to be. Also not everything needs to make financial sense short term, esp. in your twenties, go make your mistakes, who cares.

So she can't afford SF.. now she's moving to NYC? I can't understand that logic at all.

by mrbill 10y ago

So she can't afford SF.. now she's moving to NYC? I can't understand that logic at all.

dkopi 10y ago

She'll have her entire life to live in the suburbs. Some people love big cities and want the experience of living in a big city. Even if difficult to afford. Also - very few places in the US where you can manage without a car and driving.

refurb 10y ago
Even if difficult to afford. So she's making a deliberate choice to live in an expensive area because she wants to vs. needs to? Should she be complaining then?

blackguardx 10y ago

I've lived in both places. It is easier to live cheaply in NYC. I think this is because of increased competition. There are a lot more restaurants and little food stores in NYC than SF. Many more poor people live in NYC than SF and there are more businesses that cater to them.

steveklabnik 10y ago

I moved from SF to Brooklyn. Brooklyn is cheaper, or at least, was for me. It's a big place.

eumoria 10y ago
I'm in Brooklyn as well some parts are very inexpensive if you're willing to not live in the gentrified fantasyland that most of northern Brooklyn is.

danso 10y ago

I moved from a downtown Manhattan apartment to a Menlo Park converted garage. I pay substantially more for rent and I had to buy a car.

Nrsolis 10y ago

I feel like a lot of people are missing the larger point of this story: BE KIND. Because everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle you know nothing about. I'm not going to excuse her rant or her poor decision making skills as she navigates her way through life. What I am going to sympathize with is the fact that she had a rough start in life and precious few examples around her to show her how to make good vs. bad decisions. I meet plenty of people like this; people who are unprepared for the rush of responsibility they carry when thrust out in the world to care for themselves. Most of us at least know what we should be doing even if we don't always do it. We had an example. I don't think this young woman had that benefit and now she is learning the hard way all of the lessons she should have been learning long ago. So may very well be a spoiled-brat entitled millennial, but I'm more inclined to suggest that her story is a lot more complicated than we've been led to believe, even given what we've learned about her upbringing from this article. (Side note: one of my buddies is now retiring from the US Marine Corps; I didn't find out until I heard from someone planning his retirement party that before he joined the Marines he'd been homeless. When I tell you that he's one of the most inspiring and intelligent people I know, I'm not exaggerating. BE KIND.)

whatok 10y ago
> precious few examples around her to show her how to make good vs. bad decisions. I don't need examples to conduct basic arithmetic to show that I cannot afford somewhere to live. There are millions of people with similar or worse upbringing who actually learn something from that upbringing and decide to not do dumb shit that has a high chance of introducing financial ruin.
- Nrsolis 10y ago
  And here we have another example of someone who doesn't get it. You're saying that you wouldn't make the mistakes she has made because you'd know better, right? You'd use math or logic or any of your abilities to make the CORRECT choice, right? You're completely missing the fact that it's not YOU that's got the burden of making those correct choices, but HER. And she is having a hard time doing it despite her best efforts. Somewhere in the world, there is a guy judging you for screwing up because HE knew better than you did when you made that last mistake you made. And boy....THAT one was a WHOPPER. What were you THINKING?!?!

pnathan 10y ago

NYC outside of Manhattan is cheaper. Transit is better. Better infrastructure. I'd move to NYC over SF purely on cost reasons myself.

lazyant 10y ago

Young, single, with no family obligations and wanting to work in media/comedy? seems the place to be. Also not everything needs to make financial sense short term, esp. in your twenties, go make your mistakes, who cares.