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And it's not just limited to SF. You can go out to Tracy or Fairfield where there's miles and miles of space in every direction and yet, you still see the hous

And it's not just limited to SF. You can go out to Tracy or Fairfield where there's miles and miles of space in every direction and yet, you still see the houses piled on top of each other with less than 5 feet in between each house, all because the greedy government and it's citizens won't allocate more space for residential areas. It's just crazy. Somehow, these democratically controlled areas just feel that everything (traffic, fishes, insects, a river, etc) is more important than basic human needs (shelter). They need to start putting basic human needs first, above all the other petty stuff.

rspeer 10y ago
This misses the mark from my point of view. Green space is good. Density is good. Density is how you make walkable neighborhoods. You're advocating for addressing the need for housing in the form of sprawl. Communities need to build, but that's the wrong direction to build in.
- Gibbon1 10y ago
  The problem with low density housing is you then need to drive a long way to get to someplace that isn't just more tract-housing. I saw this a few years ago, what's interesting is the high variation in density, from 4 units per acre to over 300. A density variation of 75 to 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUvR9QNAzvc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUvR9QNAzvc
- pascalxus 10y ago
  Yes, but having slight density, where single family houses are 10 feet apart does not create the environment your talking about. For that, you need 5+ story buildings and you need to build the city in a way that supports walkability - which is not how 99% of america is built. We do want some Densely populated city areas that allow for walkable neighborhoods. But,If we're going to have non-walkable suburbs we should definately have some space around our houses and not crowd them up together when there's space in every direction you look.

rspeer 10y ago

This misses the mark from my point of view. Green space is good. Density is good. Density is how you make walkable neighborhoods. You're advocating for addressing the need for housing in the form of sprawl. Communities need to build, but that's the wrong direction to build in.

Gibbon1 10y ago
The problem with low density housing is you then need to drive a long way to get to someplace that isn't just more tract-housing. I saw this a few years ago, what's interesting is the high variation in density, from 4 units per acre to over 300. A density variation of 75 to 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUvR9QNAzvc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUvR9QNAzvc
pascalxus 10y ago
Yes, but having slight density, where single family houses are 10 feet apart does not create the environment your talking about. For that, you need 5+ story buildings and you need to build the city in a way that supports walkability - which is not how 99% of america is built. We do want some Densely populated city areas that allow for walkable neighborhoods. But,If we're going to have non-walkable suburbs we should definately have some space around our houses and not crowd them up together when there's space in every direction you look.