I think you're missing the point now. Again, no disrespect to you or your Nethack abilities; ascending a character is serious evidence of skills. What I wante

I think you're missing the point now. Again, no disrespect to you or your Nethack abilities; ascending a character is serious evidence of skills. What I wanted to point out is something you didn't emphasize: using and abusing the rules is what makes Nethack a unique gaming experience. Self-imposed restrictions aren't the only way to go, but they do force you to abuse the rules more heavily than without. Here are some classics that demonstrate what I'm talking about: - foodless atheist polyless: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/msg/0ba6659e795daae5 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/m...? - pacifist, with Pestilence as his pet: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/msg/eaa994c5bddbfae2 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/m...?