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>>Hold the people directly responsible to account, remove and replace if ineffective. And who is going to do "that"? and what if those who are responsible to d

by tmptmp 10y ago

>>Hold the people directly responsible to account, remove and replace if ineffective. And who is going to do "that"? and what if those who are responsible to do "that" don't do that? Then who is going to hold 'those' people who didn't do anything to hold those people responsible for the VW? I mean somewhere down the line, the general public must become active and show that it is not sleeping altogether, if that doesn't happen, well, society as a whole has to pay its price, and this price generally is very big, it can be so big that society may be crushed under its weight. My point is let's see how USA deals with this VW crime and the other important criminal called Saudi Arabia for its role in 9/11. The government and enforcement agencies have already shown that they won't punish them much. So it remains to see if the general public holds them accountable or not.

PhantomGremlin 10y ago
So it remains to see if the general public holds them accountable or not. That's not likely to happen. The American public is generally quite apathetic. For example, one of the current leading candidates to become the next president of the USA had the following good fortune a while ago[1]: - did not have any previous experience trading commodities futures - deposited less than $1000 in cash into a futures trading account - Made hundreds of trades. Each futures trade incurs a significant bid/ask spread, much greater than stock trades. And yet: Two-thirds of her trades showed a profit by the end of the day she made them and 80 percent were ultimately profitable. Many of her trades took place at or near the best prices of the day. - cashed out for $100,000 nine months later To me, that $100,000 was nothing more and nothing less than a bribe. And, although corruption is endemic in many parts of the world, one would hope that in the USA such obvious grift would unequivocally disqualify someone for the office of the President. But if you took a poll, probably 99% of the electorate wouldn't even be aware of this little incident. And the majority probably wouldn't care. So don't look for "the general public" to hold anyone accountable about anything. That's no longer how this country works. Not in 2016, anyway. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_...
- tmptmp 10y ago
  Good post indeed. >>So don't look for "the general public" to hold anyone accountable about anything. That's no longer how this country works. Not in 2016, anyway. It's sad. With all the "information age tools" at hand, we see that people are just choosing to remain ignorant. Reminds me Huxley's brave new world [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

by tmptmp 10y ago

PhantomGremlin 10y ago

So it remains to see if the general public holds them accountable or not. That's not likely to happen. The American public is generally quite apathetic. For example, one of the current leading candidates to become the next president of the USA had the following good fortune a while ago[1]: - did not have any previous experience trading commodities futures - deposited less than $1000 in cash into a futures trading account - Made hundreds of trades. Each futures trade incurs a significant bid/ask spread, much greater than stock trades. And yet: Two-thirds of her trades showed a profit by the end of the day she made them and 80 percent were ultimately profitable. Many of her trades took place at or near the best prices of the day. - cashed out for $100,000 nine months later To me, that $100,000 was nothing more and nothing less than a bribe. And, although corruption is endemic in many parts of the world, one would hope that in the USA such obvious grift would unequivocally disqualify someone for the office of the President. But if you took a poll, probably 99% of the electorate wouldn't even be aware of this little incident. And the majority probably wouldn't care. So don't look for "the general public" to hold anyone accountable about anything. That's no longer how this country works. Not in 2016, anyway. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_...

tmptmp 10y ago
Good post indeed. >>So don't look for "the general public" to hold anyone accountable about anything. That's no longer how this country works. Not in 2016, anyway. It's sad. With all the "information age tools" at hand, we see that people are just choosing to remain ignorant. Reminds me Huxley's brave new world [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World