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What coercion? Those developers can use AOSP and roll whatever OS suits their fancy. They want to ship Google's code, they play by their rules. Sounds only fai

What coercion? Those developers can use AOSP and roll whatever OS suits their fancy. They want to ship Google's code, they play by their rules. Sounds only fair.

kuschku 11y ago
No, they can’t. Google prevents OEMs like SAMSUNG from shipping Kindle devices. If SAMSUNG were to ship a Kindle device, Google would immediately stop licensing them the Play Store for their other devices. This is part of the contract between Google and OEMs, and it contains this specific limitation that an OEM can only either ship Google Play devices, or AOSP devices – but not both at the same time.
- Karunamon 11y ago
  Ah! Okay, that makes a lot more sense and definitely reeks of 90's era Microsoft-tier anticompetitive behavior.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Exactly. The EU already fought it back then, so it makes sense they’ll fight it here again. The other EU antitrust case – the one about the Google Search – also was often misrepresented, but one of the major concerns was that Google took reviews from Yelp!, displayed them in Google Maps and Google Search, did not link back to Yelp!, and when Yelp! requested Google to stop doing so, Google threatened to blacklist Yelp! from the search completely. These cases are not just hot air, although it seems like a lot of people try to misrepresent them, be it for misguided corporate loyalty or personal incentive. I personally hope the EU can improve the situation for us users soon. A Kindle device from HTC would be nice, and the ability to use DuckDuckGo from the recents menu, not just the Launcher. Being able to use non-Google push notification services would also reduce my own costs – I’m a student working on FLOSS apps – by about 15$ a month – I’d finally be able to get 3G speeds on my phone, currently I can only afford 64kbps unlimited internet.

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What coercion? Those developers can use AOSP and roll whatever OS suits their fancy. They want to ship Google's code, they play by their rules. Sounds only fai

by Karunamon 11y ago

What coercion? Those developers can use AOSP and roll whatever OS suits their fancy. They want to ship Google's code, they play by their rules. Sounds only fair.

kuschku 11y ago
No, they can’t. Google prevents OEMs like SAMSUNG from shipping Kindle devices. If SAMSUNG were to ship a Kindle device, Google would immediately stop licensing them the Play Store for their other devices. This is part of the contract between Google and OEMs, and it contains this specific limitation that an OEM can only either ship Google Play devices, or AOSP devices – but not both at the same time.
- Karunamon 11y ago
  Ah! Okay, that makes a lot more sense and definitely reeks of 90's era Microsoft-tier anticompetitive behavior.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Exactly. The EU already fought it back then, so it makes sense they’ll fight it here again. The other EU antitrust case – the one about the Google Search – also was often misrepresented, but one of the major concerns was that Google took reviews from Yelp!, displayed them in Google Maps and Google Search, did not link back to Yelp!, and when Yelp! requested Google to stop doing so, Google threatened to blacklist Yelp! from the search completely. These cases are not just hot air, although it seems like a lot of people try to misrepresent them, be it for misguided corporate loyalty or personal incentive. I personally hope the EU can improve the situation for us users soon. A Kindle device from HTC would be nice, and the ability to use DuckDuckGo from the recents menu, not just the Launcher. Being able to use non-Google push notification services would also reduce my own costs – I’m a student working on FLOSS apps – by about 15$ a month – I’d finally be able to get 3G speeds on my phone, currently I can only afford 64kbps unlimited internet.