> So, to clarify, you're advocating that programmers be hired based on resume, references, and a conversation about prior projects? I think he is, considering

> So, to clarify, you're advocating that programmers be hired based on resume, references, and a conversation about prior projects? I think he is, considering this is the way every other engineering discipline does it. Please don;t fall back on the licensure issue, either. The vast majority of engineers in industry are not and do not need to be licensed. They still get interviewed this way.