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No, he's saying that neither Arsenal or Man City are having appalling seasons. They're both doing pretty well. The funny thing is that Spurs are also having a

No, he's saying that neither Arsenal or Man City are having appalling seasons. They're both doing pretty well. The funny thing is that Spurs are also having a fantastic season, if it wasn't for Leicester this article could have been written by a Spurs fan about their amazing rise up the league.

ed_blackburn 11y ago
Who are incidentally top of the league by most metric other than the one that matters most.
ZenoArrow 11y ago
> "No, he's saying that neither Arsenal or Man City are having appalling seasons. They're both doing pretty well." As an Arsenal fan, I couldn't disagree with you more. Arsenal have had an awful second half to the season, if they hadn't had a strong start they'd be mid table: http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/14/revealed-arsenals-terrible-league-form-since-christmas-5815262/ http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/14/revealed-arsenals-terrible-lea... Many Arsenal fans are somewhat livid with how this season has played out, with the majority of the anger being directed at the manager and the board.
- macca321 11y ago
  and Theo.
  - ZenoArrow 11y ago
    There have been a couple of players who have got some stick, but it's nothing compared to Wenger and Kroenke. Why Wenger seems reluctant to play on form players and is reluctant/unwilling to buy another first class centre back and striker is beyond me.
    - blowski 11y ago
      Blimey. A full on football debate on HN.
- ameen 11y ago
  As a Man City fan, I was sure you guys would finally win it. It's as if our managers don't really want to win the PL. Pellegrini and Wenger's stubbornness is an important reason for Leicester and Spurs to lead the table.
  - ZenoArrow 11y ago
    Thanks. For what it's worth, don't know what's happened to Man City this season, you were probably missing Aguero early on, but you have enough quality in your squad it should've been easy enough to adapt. What changes do you want Pellegrini to make next season?
    - ameen 11y ago
      I guess you don't follow the EPL closely. Pellegrini announced that he was leaving at the original date his contract ended (end of this season), thereby forcing the club to pre-emptively announce Pep Guardiola. The reason we lost key ties against West Ham, Spurs and Liverpool was fielding players that are defensive liabilities vs. defensively sound ones – Kolarov and Yaya rather than Clichy and Fernando. He also didn't adapt to the game and stuck with his gameplan so there weren't any comebacks in the league. Surprisingly we came back more than twice in our CL campaign, against Sevilla and Borussia Mönchengladbach.
      - ZenoArrow 11y ago
        > "I guess you don't follow the EPL closely." Yeah, I only really follow Arsenal's games and get bits of other news here and there, but I knew about Aguero being injured as I play fantasy football as well, and he's been doing me proud since he returned from injury. ;-) That said, now that you mention Pep Guardiola it does ring a bell. Has Pellegrini announced who he's managing next? Speaking of managers, I'm gutted that Mourinho may be coming back to the EPL, not a fan of the way he winds people up.
- radicalbyte 11y ago
  Arsenal haven't finished in the top two for, like, a decade now? They're currently 3rd and are looking good for a top 4 finish. How many times have they been the best team in the first half of the season only to fall apart by February? It's a normal season :( (For the record: I'm a Swindon fan and like watching Arsenal in the autumn and Liverpool when they're 2-0 down in Europe).
  - ZenoArrow 11y ago
    > "Liverpool when they're 2-0 down in Europe" Know what you mean, I missed seeing it but I heard that Europa league game you're referring to was amazing. I still think the best game of football I've ever seen was the 2005 Champions League final, I have nothing but respect for Liverpool for pulling that off.

ed_blackburn 11y ago

Who are incidentally top of the league by most metric other than the one that matters most.

ZenoArrow 11y ago

> "No, he's saying that neither Arsenal or Man City are having appalling seasons. They're both doing pretty well." As an Arsenal fan, I couldn't disagree with you more. Arsenal have had an awful second half to the season, if they hadn't had a strong start they'd be mid table: http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/14/revealed-arsenals-terrible-league-form-since-christmas-5815262/ http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/14/revealed-arsenals-terrible-lea... Many Arsenal fans are somewhat livid with how this season has played out, with the majority of the anger being directed at the manager and the board.

macca321 11y ago
and Theo.
- ZenoArrow 11y ago
  There have been a couple of players who have got some stick, but it's nothing compared to Wenger and Kroenke. Why Wenger seems reluctant to play on form players and is reluctant/unwilling to buy another first class centre back and striker is beyond me.
  - blowski 11y ago
    Blimey. A full on football debate on HN.
ameen 11y ago
As a Man City fan, I was sure you guys would finally win it. It's as if our managers don't really want to win the PL. Pellegrini and Wenger's stubbornness is an important reason for Leicester and Spurs to lead the table.
- ZenoArrow 11y ago
  Thanks. For what it's worth, don't know what's happened to Man City this season, you were probably missing Aguero early on, but you have enough quality in your squad it should've been easy enough to adapt. What changes do you want Pellegrini to make next season?
  - ameen 11y ago
    I guess you don't follow the EPL closely. Pellegrini announced that he was leaving at the original date his contract ended (end of this season), thereby forcing the club to pre-emptively announce Pep Guardiola. The reason we lost key ties against West Ham, Spurs and Liverpool was fielding players that are defensive liabilities vs. defensively sound ones – Kolarov and Yaya rather than Clichy and Fernando. He also didn't adapt to the game and stuck with his gameplan so there weren't any comebacks in the league. Surprisingly we came back more than twice in our CL campaign, against Sevilla and Borussia Mönchengladbach.
    - ZenoArrow 11y ago
      > "I guess you don't follow the EPL closely." Yeah, I only really follow Arsenal's games and get bits of other news here and there, but I knew about Aguero being injured as I play fantasy football as well, and he's been doing me proud since he returned from injury. ;-) That said, now that you mention Pep Guardiola it does ring a bell. Has Pellegrini announced who he's managing next? Speaking of managers, I'm gutted that Mourinho may be coming back to the EPL, not a fan of the way he winds people up.
radicalbyte 11y ago
Arsenal haven't finished in the top two for, like, a decade now? They're currently 3rd and are looking good for a top 4 finish. How many times have they been the best team in the first half of the season only to fall apart by February? It's a normal season :( (For the record: I'm a Swindon fan and like watching Arsenal in the autumn and Liverpool when they're 2-0 down in Europe).
- ZenoArrow 11y ago
  > "Liverpool when they're 2-0 down in Europe" Know what you mean, I missed seeing it but I heard that Europa league game you're referring to was amazing. I still think the best game of football I've ever seen was the 2005 Champions League final, I have nothing but respect for Liverpool for pulling that off.