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>the HOA doesn't own my house. The HOA doesn't need ownership. They have a valid contractual claim to limit the use of the property based on the person who ori
by ancap 10y ago
>the HOA doesn't own my house.
The HOA doesn't need ownership. They have a valid contractual claim to limit the use of the property based on the person who originally owned the property and elected to make it a part of the HOA. Any buyer accepts those limitations.
When you purchase a piece of property you are not always getting rights to everything you might think. You may not have mineral or water rights. The property may have an easement in place.
>And I was never part of the HOA, yet am required (compelled) to join and abide by it.
You are never forced to join an HOA. A piece of property is part of an HOA or it is not. You choose whether you want that property or not. There is no force and no compulsion involved.
>Contracts are irrelevant
On the contrary. It is all about contracts.
- Frondo 10y agoHeh, I couldn't help it! What you said, up there, is basically that some owner in the distant past could make a contract with an HOA that, despite the property changing hands, grants the HOA some power over that property forever. What on earth kind of freedom is that? If I want to buy a house that some previous owner inducted into an HOA, and I don't want to join the HOA, why should I have to? That sounds like government, but worse, because I can't vote the bums out! And if you're about to say "you don't have to buy a home within an HOA neighborhood, buy one without," well, what if I want to buy this house, but don't want to join the HOA? Why should some private organization be able to force me to join them for no reason other than some previous owner had an agreement with them? You know, the more we explore the HOA idea, the worse it seems like being any kind of freedom at all. How about it, ancap? Gonna rethink your ideas at all?
- ancap 10y ago>What you said, up there, is basically that some owner in the distant past could make a contract with an HOA that, despite the property changing hands, grants the HOA some power over that property forever. >What on earth kind of freedom is that? If I want to buy a house that some previous owner inducted into an HOA, and I don't want to join the HOA, why should I have to? Do you disagree with the concept of someone owning mineral rights and someone else owning the land for the same piece of property?
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoGetting very strained. The HOA's entire point is to interfere in your private enjoyment of your private property. Not abstract rights to something underground that you don't care about.