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be careful with that. as far as I can tell from my own investigations into it, Murray Gell-Mann did not coin this term or have much of anything to do with it.
by metaphorm 11y ago
be careful with that.
as far as I can tell from my own investigations into it, Murray Gell-Mann did not coin this term or have much of anything to do with it. Murray Gell-Mann himself was a quantum physicist and I don't think he spent a lot of time worrying about the news media.
I believe the "Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect" is something created by the fiction author Michael Crichton as a plot device. It may be an interesting idea but as far as I know it is not a real researched effect in media studies or psychology.
- mikeash 11y agoI'm not sure what there is to be careful of here. A brief search will reveal that it was named after Gell-Mann in an attempt to make it sound better, and I don't see any particular implication from it that it's a scientifically supported phenomenon.
- chris_wot 11y agoYou only need to be careful because some smart-alek will point out it is an example of Stigler's law of eponymy.
- metaphorm 11y agoI'm saying you should be careful because it is easy to give a false impression that you are discussing a scientifically supported phenomenon where really it is basically the musings of a fiction writer. the name "Gell-Mann Amnesia" was, in fact, chosen by Crichton self-consciously so that this false impression would be more likely in discussions such as this one. Lack of context and a fancy sounding name serve to obfuscate the truth here.
- mikeash 11y agoIs it really? People throw around fancy-sounding names like Betteridge's Law of Headlines and Sturgeon's Law without any qualifiers and nobody seems to mistake those for scientific principles. I'm not sure it's worth defending against people taking a fancy-sounding name and taking that as an indication that it's scientific principle without even bothering to take five seconds to look it up.
- metaphorm 11y agoBetteridge's Law is named after Ian Betteridge, a technology journalist, who wrote directly on the subject. Sturgeon's Law is named after Ted Sturgeon, a fiction writer, who actually basically coined the phrase originally (I think he did anyway). Michael Crichton, on the other hand, did not call his idea "Crichton's Law of Media Analysis". He deliberately gave it an obfuscatory name and attempted to associate it with a well regarded physicist to give the impression that the law was scientific in some way. It was a deliberate misdirection, done for effect. Because of the intrinsically duplicitous nature of the name "Gell-Mann Amnesia" I think its inappropriate to continue referring to the effect under that name. Call it Crichton's Law or whatever. Lets not repeat the original misdirection though. It is fundamentally dishonest and does a disservice to the legacy of Murray Gell-Mann.
- spinlock 11y agoOooo, oooo, do Jurasic Park next.
- 33W 11y agoWhile mikeash covered that badly, I'll continue to assume that they cover other topics that we're relatively ignorant about fairly and correctly.
- kragen 11y agoGell-Mann still is a quantum physicist. Don't scare me like that.
- sago 11y agoI know!, I was all "oh jeez, not Murray too, how did I not hear about that!". Okay, panic over.
- 1812Overture 11y agoA great example of Stigler's Law of Eponymy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy