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No, she doesn't understand why. Maybe you can enlighten us. She used to pay hard cash for access to Netflix (the US version), and watched US content legally.

No, she doesn't understand why. Maybe you can enlighten us. She used to pay hard cash for access to Netflix (the US version), and watched US content legally. Now she's being prevented from that. If the content creator doesn't want to sell access to the content for you, then you have every right to access it through other means. They never had to cut off access to these non-US customers: they were paying good money for this service, the same money as someone in America. Why shouldn't they be allowed access? Why is their money not as good as an American's money? Don't forget, we have a Free Trade treaty between Canada and the US. They're not practicing free trade here as the treaty states, so she has every right to work around it.

guiomie 11y ago
"She used to pay hard cash for access to Netflix (the US version), and watched US content legally" ... she didn't, she paid "hard cash" for the the Canadian version of Netflix, and found a not legal workaround to watch US content. She can most certainly watch CSI from an authorized distributor in Canada if she pays the right content owners in Canada. "If the content creator doesn't want to sell access to the content for you, then you have every right to access it through other means.", No you don't, how did you come up with this logic? No distributor deemed the selling price acceptable for them in Canada, if the creator wants the content in Canada he can sell it at a lower price. As a consumer, if you don't have an option to buy something, doesn't mean you should acquire it thru illegal means. NAFTA was created to eliminate tariffs and protect intellectual property. Someone buys the right to distribute a show in Canada, this right should be protected.
- Grishnakh 11y ago
  >She can most certainly watch CSI from an authorized distributor in Canada if she pays the right content owners in Canada. She can buy the US version instead. Why should she be limited to what someone in Canada wants to sell it for? The internet doesn't follow national borders. I can access a webpage in Germany just as easily as a website in the US, and with online content, it's nothing more than bits being streamed. So why should she pay more? To prop up a dinosaur of a business model? Screw that. >As a consumer, if you don't have an option to buy something, doesn't mean you should acquire it thru illegal means. Sure it does. They've had their chance to offer things by legal means, they've been shown that it works, but it's not good enough for them. Fuck 'em. >NAFTA was created to eliminate tariffs and protect intellectual property. Someone buys the right to distribute a show in Canada, this right should be protected. Why should that be protected? That's not free trade, it's blatantly against the whole stated reason for the treaty. Again, fuck 'em. Piracy is the answer. When legal means don't work, and only serve moneyed interests and are put in place by corrupt politicians, it's time to ignore the laws.
nkurz 11y ago
She used to pay hard cash for access to Netflix (the US version), and watched US content legally. The article says "For about a year, Lorenz subscribed to Netflix Canada, but her family freely accessed the streaming service's shows from across the globe." The change discussed is that a subscriber in one country is no longer allowed access to the catalog of another country when accessing from a proxy IP in that country. Whether she should be allowed set up and pay for a Netflix US account to watch US shows as a non-resident is a separate issue.
- Grishnakh 11y ago
  No, sorry if I got the details slightly wrong, but the issue is the same: should people from country A be able to set up an account in country B, and then watch the shows in country B's market (over a VPN)? Usually, it's non-US people wanting to get access to the US version of Netflix, but obviously there's other cases too since every country will have a different catalog and different people have different tastes.

guiomie 11y ago

"She used to pay hard cash for access to Netflix (the US version), and watched US content legally" ... she didn't, she paid "hard cash" for the the Canadian version of Netflix, and found a not legal workaround to watch US content. She can most certainly watch CSI from an authorized distributor in Canada if she pays the right content owners in Canada. "If the content creator doesn't want to sell access to the content for you, then you have every right to access it through other means.", No you don't, how did you come up with this logic? No distributor deemed the selling price acceptable for them in Canada, if the creator wants the content in Canada he can sell it at a lower price. As a consumer, if you don't have an option to buy something, doesn't mean you should acquire it thru illegal means. NAFTA was created to eliminate tariffs and protect intellectual property. Someone buys the right to distribute a show in Canada, this right should be protected.

Grishnakh 11y ago
>She can most certainly watch CSI from an authorized distributor in Canada if she pays the right content owners in Canada. She can buy the US version instead. Why should she be limited to what someone in Canada wants to sell it for? The internet doesn't follow national borders. I can access a webpage in Germany just as easily as a website in the US, and with online content, it's nothing more than bits being streamed. So why should she pay more? To prop up a dinosaur of a business model? Screw that. >As a consumer, if you don't have an option to buy something, doesn't mean you should acquire it thru illegal means. Sure it does. They've had their chance to offer things by legal means, they've been shown that it works, but it's not good enough for them. Fuck 'em. >NAFTA was created to eliminate tariffs and protect intellectual property. Someone buys the right to distribute a show in Canada, this right should be protected. Why should that be protected? That's not free trade, it's blatantly against the whole stated reason for the treaty. Again, fuck 'em. Piracy is the answer. When legal means don't work, and only serve moneyed interests and are put in place by corrupt politicians, it's time to ignore the laws.

nkurz 11y ago

She used to pay hard cash for access to Netflix (the US version), and watched US content legally. The article says "For about a year, Lorenz subscribed to Netflix Canada, but her family freely accessed the streaming service's shows from across the globe." The change discussed is that a subscriber in one country is no longer allowed access to the catalog of another country when accessing from a proxy IP in that country. Whether she should be allowed set up and pay for a Netflix US account to watch US shows as a non-resident is a separate issue.

Grishnakh 11y ago
No, sorry if I got the details slightly wrong, but the issue is the same: should people from country A be able to set up an account in country B, and then watch the shows in country B's market (over a VPN)? Usually, it's non-US people wanting to get access to the US version of Netflix, but obviously there's other cases too since every country will have a different catalog and different people have different tastes.