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You're missing a few big ones. Like, a murder sentence is more lenient in Singapore than a drug trafficking sentence, which is death by hanging. Many murderers

You're missing a few big ones. Like, a murder sentence is more lenient in Singapore than a drug trafficking sentence, which is death by hanging. Many murderers go free in Singapore after a few years of prison, while someone caught with a a backpack of pot can be killed legally, and someone with only a couple grams of marijuana can spend 10 years in jail.

notahacker 10y ago
As ridiculous as death sentences for drug trafficking are, they're in place and [far more] frequently carried out in all the surrounding South East Asian states too. I'm not sure where you've got the idea Singapore habitually lets murderers free either; judges only got the discretion to impose life imprisonment instead of the death penalty for murder in 2012/
- hellofunk 10y ago
  This guy set his wife on fire, and she died, and the courts gave him a 20-yr sentence which was considered an "excessive punishment" http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/man-admits-killing-ex-girlfriend-by-setting-her-on-fire http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/man-admits-killing-ex-...
  - notahacker 10y ago
    A cursory search reveals that he was charged of "culpable homicide not amounting to murder" on the grounds that he was "suffering from an abnormality of mind ... which substantially impaired his mental responsibility for the commission of the offence", and his appeal against the 20 year sentence failed. http://www.singaporelaw.sg/sglaw/laws-of-singapore/case-law/free-law/court-of-appeal-judgments/15742-lim-ghim-peow-v-publicprosecutor-2014-sgca-52 http://www.singaporelaw.sg/sglaw/laws-of-singapore/case-law/... So yes, Singapore doesn't impose the same mandatory life or death sentences on the mentally ill, but I'm not sure that helps your argument...
    - hellofunk 10y ago
      I think you will find in general that drug offenders are typically sentenced more strictly than violent offenders in Singapore. That's my main argument, sorry for the tangent.
- TheCoelacanth 10y ago
  Most of the surrounding states are in no danger of being mistaken for a first world country, while Singapore often is.
  - vinay427 10y ago
    If you're going to talk about what is and isn't a first world country, please define the term. There isn't some consensus the world has reached on what it means.
    - discordance 10y ago
      Good point. The terms 'first/second/third world' are rough terms that came from the cold war. There is a rough consensus that first world are countries that aligned with the capitalist western axis, second world refers to former communist-socialist countries, and the third describes developing countries (Africa, Asia and LatAm).

notahacker 10y ago

As ridiculous as death sentences for drug trafficking are, they're in place and [far more] frequently carried out in all the surrounding South East Asian states too. I'm not sure where you've got the idea Singapore habitually lets murderers free either; judges only got the discretion to impose life imprisonment instead of the death penalty for murder in 2012/

hellofunk 10y ago
This guy set his wife on fire, and she died, and the courts gave him a 20-yr sentence which was considered an "excessive punishment" http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/man-admits-killing-ex-girlfriend-by-setting-her-on-fire http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/man-admits-killing-ex-...
- notahacker 10y ago
  A cursory search reveals that he was charged of "culpable homicide not amounting to murder" on the grounds that he was "suffering from an abnormality of mind ... which substantially impaired his mental responsibility for the commission of the offence", and his appeal against the 20 year sentence failed. http://www.singaporelaw.sg/sglaw/laws-of-singapore/case-law/free-law/court-of-appeal-judgments/15742-lim-ghim-peow-v-publicprosecutor-2014-sgca-52 http://www.singaporelaw.sg/sglaw/laws-of-singapore/case-law/... So yes, Singapore doesn't impose the same mandatory life or death sentences on the mentally ill, but I'm not sure that helps your argument...
  - hellofunk 10y ago
    I think you will find in general that drug offenders are typically sentenced more strictly than violent offenders in Singapore. That's my main argument, sorry for the tangent.
TheCoelacanth 10y ago
Most of the surrounding states are in no danger of being mistaken for a first world country, while Singapore often is.
- vinay427 10y ago
  If you're going to talk about what is and isn't a first world country, please define the term. There isn't some consensus the world has reached on what it means.
  - discordance 10y ago
    Good point. The terms 'first/second/third world' are rough terms that came from the cold war. There is a rough consensus that first world are countries that aligned with the capitalist western axis, second world refers to former communist-socialist countries, and the third describes developing countries (Africa, Asia and LatAm).