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Other smaller companies act like this, too. Was invited to a steak lunch for automic's UC4 (job scheduling) at a fancy dinner far away from anything relevant an
by bpchaps 10y ago
Other smaller companies act like this, too. Was invited to a steak lunch for automic's UC4 (job scheduling) at a fancy dinner far away from anything relevant and at no point, during a two hour talk, was anything of substance actually said. They were trying to sell us UC4 (we already owned it, ffs) yet they didn't even show us the damn interface! Everything was fluff upon fluff upon fluff. And the execs - wearing some of the most expensive suits and watches I've ever seen - friggin' loved it.
The best part is that they brought in McDonald's UC4 engineer to talk about how good it was. When we asked him how they automated its deployment and where they got their init scripts from, since UC4 didn't include any (wtf), his answer was that it was basically his full time job to deploy it by hand, since he didn't know how to automate anything. Somehow he turned his lack of skill and McDonald's apparent lack of good tech leadership into a positive thing - which the execs also loved. These are the kinds of people making large, absurdly expensive software decisions for multi, multi billion dollar companies.
I have nightmares of trying to figure out their database schema. 2-6ish letter German acronyms for table names....
Their wiki gives a good impression of their character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automic
- geon 10y agoThey use a large, expensive platform for automation, and they don't know how to automate?
- emp_zealoth 10y agoImagine just how much of an unfair advantage those companies must have to basically set hundreds of millions on fire and still expand! :)
- bpchaps 10y agoYep. In complete fairness to the guy, it sounded like he knew the work was unfairly shoveled onto him. That fairness can't be extended towards his management, though.
- rlonstein 10y agoI've had similar experience with CA and the Autosys product. Great lunches, nice cocktails, and weeks of arm twisting to get to speak with actual engineers and get into a tech session. Forget about DB schema, we ended up figuring that out on our own. This was a product we already owned. In comparison, BMC was up front with an engineer during the eval and provided us with great documentation including the DB schema. We didn't go with them or others in the automation space for... reasons... but it was a very different experience. [edit: Why the downvotes? My experience with another 800-lbs gorilla confirms the parent comment]