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This "review" is the technical equivalent of a YouTube unboxing video. Screenshot, screenshot, something I already knew from reading the press release, screensh

by tacos 10y ago

This "review" is the technical equivalent of a YouTube unboxing video. Screenshot, screenshot, something I already knew from reading the press release, screenshot, platitude, one big technical error in the conclusion, and done. If it really worked (especially on Windows) Docker would post the binaries instead of treating this like Wonka Golden Tickets. Love Docker, am actually waiting to be approved so I can get to building something, but posts like this are a symptom of a larger problem.

minimaxir 10y ago
> If it really worked That's why it's a beta.
- tacos 10y ago
  Beta means "feature complete" not "wait a month/win a lottery to get a chance at using the bits."
  - FrenchBen 10y ago
    @tacos - ping me on twitter
garadox 10y ago
There are still some rough edges, crashes when you resume from sleep (fixed in the latest update I might add), things like that. It's pretty close to an open beta in my opinion.
shykes 10y ago
Disclaimer: I work at Docker. The reason we are keeping the beta private is because we don't believe the quality is good enough yet to "open the floodgates". We are sending as many invites as the engineers are comfortable with - currently that's several thousands per day. As we hit more and more edge cases (performance, stability, support for unusual configurations...) we are expanding the pool as fast as we can.
- tacos 10y ago
  I appreciate this but in that case you should collect configuration data as part of requesting the bits. If I'm on a machine that's known borked, I'll wait. If not, gimme and I'll help you fix. Otherwise it feels like you're just using this as a marketing trick to build buzz.
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- nzoschke 10y ago
  Hey Solomon! Author of the post here. I'll second your ask for patience. If you've been following along, incredibly smart people have been experimenting with Docker and xhyve for a long time now. I feel like I've been waiting for close to a year for a solution this good. Testing and trying lots of permutations on a Mac. I was very excited by the beta announcement and was fine waiting for Docker to send invites at whatever pace makes sense for them. I'll also still patient while the Docker team works out the countless new bugs they will find as people use this far and wide. I'll also keep doing my part to help people be very successful developing and deploying with Docker. Thanks for the hard work.
nzoschke 10y ago
Author here. I'm deep in the weeds with Docker, LXC, containers, hypervisors all the time. Content about those layers very few people care about... These are tools that are supposed to mostly stay out of the way after all. Interest in Docker packaging their app as a nice mac app, and people understanding how the install process works is not a problem, it's a sign that these tools are finally becoming digestable by all. What's the technical error?
so0k 10y ago
if you want a more technical review of the Windows beta, read this: http://docker-saigon.github.io/post/Docker-Beta/ http://docker-saigon.github.io/post/Docker-Beta/ But note that beta 8 was released a few days after that review and already introduced some changes. Also, for the Windows beta, it very much is still a beta.

by tacos 10y ago

minimaxir 10y ago

> If it really worked That's why it's a beta.

tacos 10y ago
Beta means "feature complete" not "wait a month/win a lottery to get a chance at using the bits."
- FrenchBen 10y ago
  @tacos - ping me on twitter

garadox 10y ago

There are still some rough edges, crashes when you resume from sleep (fixed in the latest update I might add), things like that. It's pretty close to an open beta in my opinion.

shykes 10y ago

Disclaimer: I work at Docker. The reason we are keeping the beta private is because we don't believe the quality is good enough yet to "open the floodgates". We are sending as many invites as the engineers are comfortable with - currently that's several thousands per day. As we hit more and more edge cases (performance, stability, support for unusual configurations...) we are expanding the pool as fast as we can.

tacos 10y ago
I appreciate this but in that case you should collect configuration data as part of requesting the bits. If I'm on a machine that's known borked, I'll wait. If not, gimme and I'll help you fix. Otherwise it feels like you're just using this as a marketing trick to build buzz.
- deleted 10y ago
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nzoschke 10y ago
Hey Solomon! Author of the post here. I'll second your ask for patience. If you've been following along, incredibly smart people have been experimenting with Docker and xhyve for a long time now. I feel like I've been waiting for close to a year for a solution this good. Testing and trying lots of permutations on a Mac. I was very excited by the beta announcement and was fine waiting for Docker to send invites at whatever pace makes sense for them. I'll also still patient while the Docker team works out the countless new bugs they will find as people use this far and wide. I'll also keep doing my part to help people be very successful developing and deploying with Docker. Thanks for the hard work.

nzoschke 10y ago

Author here. I'm deep in the weeds with Docker, LXC, containers, hypervisors all the time. Content about those layers very few people care about... These are tools that are supposed to mostly stay out of the way after all. Interest in Docker packaging their app as a nice mac app, and people understanding how the install process works is not a problem, it's a sign that these tools are finally becoming digestable by all. What's the technical error?

so0k 10y ago

if you want a more technical review of the Windows beta, read this: http://docker-saigon.github.io/post/Docker-Beta/ http://docker-saigon.github.io/post/Docker-Beta/ But note that beta 8 was released a few days after that review and already introduced some changes. Also, for the Windows beta, it very much is still a beta.