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When you're on the ground floor you are more likely to be targeted than when you're on the 40th floor.

by pyre 11y ago

morgante 11y ago
Oh no! You might get "targeted." How scary! This thread has been really illuminating for me. I didn't realize so many people were so afraid of "criminals" that they can't even get good sleep.
- developer2 11y ago
  Have you ever been burglarized by someone unknown and uncaught? The violation is extremely personal. These people watch you for days or weeks to ensure they know your routine. They know when you leave for work, and when you come home. They know you don't work Fridays. It could be a neighbour you've said hello to dozens of times, watching from their window. It could be a stranger who finds it worthwhile to sit in their car watching your home. You'll never know. Either way, they've invested time in observing you, and have specifically chosen you as their target. Yes, it makes you "targeted". When you come home to your back door broken open, and find $5000 worth of shit missing, and every drawer in your home opened and sifted through? When you can't possibly even know exactly what's missing. A month after the incident, you're still finding new things that were taken from you. It's not just about the stolen property. It's your entire personal space ripped apart. It's a form of psychological rape. Hope you get to experience that some day.
  - morgante 11y ago
    > It's a form of psychological rape. Hope you get to experience that some day. Wow. I can understand why you might feel emotional about a robbery. I imagine it's very invasive. Given that, I cannot imagine why you would wish it on someone else. My point was that it's an irrational fear: you're likely not going to get robbed and it's not worth spending a bunch of time worry about it.
    - developer2 11y ago
      >> you're likely not going to get robbed You realize I posted as someone who has been through that? "Likely not going to get robbed" doesn't apply, as it's already happened. And if it happens to have been one of my neighbours who committed the crime? Great, next time they see a large box delivered to my place, they know I'm ripe for another round. I don't really want to compare being burglarized to sexual rape, as obviously the latter is much more damaging. But would you even dare telling a woman that was raped once that she's being irrational because she's terrified every time a man walks 5 steps behind her on the street? Do I really want you to have to experience it? No. That was a reactionary remark for making light of a victim's mental state.
      - tamana 11y ago
        Something can be irrational and psychologically painful at the same time. Fear of flying vs nonfear of driving, for example.
      - morgante 11y ago
        > But would you even dare telling a woman that was raped once that she's being irrational because she's terrified every time a man walks 5 steps behind her on the street? Yes. It is irrational, because the likelihood of rape from a random stranger is actually extremely low. I'm not disputing the pain of your experience. It likely was very traumatic. However, just because something was very painful doesn't mean it's rational to live your life in fear of it happening (when its probability is low). I likewise recognize that being the victim of a terrorist attack is traumatic, but it would still be irrational to avoid planes for that reason.
        pyre 10y ago
        > Yes. It is irrational, because the likelihood of rape from a random stranger is actually extremely low. This is when averaged across the entire population. A 14 year old girl walking through a "bad neighbourhood" alone at night doesn't necessary carry the same risk of rape that a 6-foot tall, bulky body builder does.
  - mirimir 11y ago
    I've been there, and it sucks. I ended up sleeping with a loaded 12-gauge shotgun under my bed. Neighbor of mine nailed a burglar with a 38, kept under her pillow.
    - developer2 11y ago
      I still sleep with a knife under my matress. Canadian, so no gun. If I had one, it'd be within reach.
- eric_h 11y ago
  I'm going to guess you've never been burglarized. I have not either, but every single person I know who's had their home invaded is a fair bit more nervous about that sort of thing than people who haven't. A coworker of mine had his apartment burglarized by someone who got to the roof of his building and squeezed in through the tiny bathroom window of his top floor apartment approx 8 months ago. I don't think he's gotten over it yet. My parents are the same way, they grew up in the city, and between them have 3 different stories of being burgled, and even when they moved to a very quiet, extremely low crime (as in basically zero, aside from DUIs and the occasional marijuana arrest) rural neighborhood, still lock their doors at night.

When you're on the ground floor you are more likely to be targeted than when you're on the 40th floor.

by pyre 11y ago

When you're on the ground floor you are more likely to be targeted than when you're on the 40th floor.

Oh no! You might get "targeted." How scary! This thread has been really illuminating for me. I didn't realize so many people were so afraid of "criminals" that they can't even get good sleep.

developer2 11y ago
Have you ever been burglarized by someone unknown and uncaught? The violation is extremely personal. These people watch you for days or weeks to ensure they know your routine. They know when you leave for work, and when you come home. They know you don't work Fridays. It could be a neighbour you've said hello to dozens of times, watching from their window. It could be a stranger who finds it worthwhile to sit in their car watching your home. You'll never know. Either way, they've invested time in observing you, and have specifically chosen you as their target. Yes, it makes you "targeted". When you come home to your back door broken open, and find $5000 worth of shit missing, and every drawer in your home opened and sifted through? When you can't possibly even know exactly what's missing. A month after the incident, you're still finding new things that were taken from you. It's not just about the stolen property. It's your entire personal space ripped apart. It's a form of psychological rape. Hope you get to experience that some day.
- morgante 11y ago
  > It's a form of psychological rape. Hope you get to experience that some day. Wow. I can understand why you might feel emotional about a robbery. I imagine it's very invasive. Given that, I cannot imagine why you would wish it on someone else. My point was that it's an irrational fear: you're likely not going to get robbed and it's not worth spending a bunch of time worry about it.
  - developer2 11y ago
    >> you're likely not going to get robbed You realize I posted as someone who has been through that? "Likely not going to get robbed" doesn't apply, as it's already happened. And if it happens to have been one of my neighbours who committed the crime? Great, next time they see a large box delivered to my place, they know I'm ripe for another round. I don't really want to compare being burglarized to sexual rape, as obviously the latter is much more damaging. But would you even dare telling a woman that was raped once that she's being irrational because she's terrified every time a man walks 5 steps behind her on the street? Do I really want you to have to experience it? No. That was a reactionary remark for making light of a victim's mental state.
    - tamana 11y ago
      Something can be irrational and psychologically painful at the same time. Fear of flying vs nonfear of driving, for example.
    - morgante 11y ago
      > But would you even dare telling a woman that was raped once that she's being irrational because she's terrified every time a man walks 5 steps behind her on the street? Yes. It is irrational, because the likelihood of rape from a random stranger is actually extremely low. I'm not disputing the pain of your experience. It likely was very traumatic. However, just because something was very painful doesn't mean it's rational to live your life in fear of it happening (when its probability is low). I likewise recognize that being the victim of a terrorist attack is traumatic, but it would still be irrational to avoid planes for that reason.
      - pyre 10y ago
        > Yes. It is irrational, because the likelihood of rape from a random stranger is actually extremely low. This is when averaged across the entire population. A 14 year old girl walking through a "bad neighbourhood" alone at night doesn't necessary carry the same risk of rape that a 6-foot tall, bulky body builder does.
- mirimir 11y ago
  I've been there, and it sucks. I ended up sleeping with a loaded 12-gauge shotgun under my bed. Neighbor of mine nailed a burglar with a 38, kept under her pillow.
  - developer2 11y ago
    I still sleep with a knife under my matress. Canadian, so no gun. If I had one, it'd be within reach.
eric_h 11y ago
I'm going to guess you've never been burglarized. I have not either, but every single person I know who's had their home invaded is a fair bit more nervous about that sort of thing than people who haven't. A coworker of mine had his apartment burglarized by someone who got to the roof of his building and squeezed in through the tiny bathroom window of his top floor apartment approx 8 months ago. I don't think he's gotten over it yet. My parents are the same way, they grew up in the city, and between them have 3 different stories of being burgled, and even when they moved to a very quiet, extremely low crime (as in basically zero, aside from DUIs and the occasional marijuana arrest) rural neighborhood, still lock their doors at night.