I never did get the concept of "real programmer", I mean when it comes to defining a programmer I would go with wikipedia A programmer is someone who writes co

I never did get the concept of "real programmer", I mean when it comes to defining a programmer I would go with wikipedia A programmer is someone who writes computer software. The term computer programmer can refer to a specialist in one area of computer programming or to a generalist who writes code for many kinds of software. Now tell me how anyone who does not know how a language or framework works, but can still make computer programs out of it, is not a "real" programmer?