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Get a travel visa and a sham marriage. As the spouse of a US citizen, you are entitled to a nonimmigrant visa while you wait to be processed to become a perman

by amohr 19y ago

Get a travel visa and a sham marriage. As the spouse of a US citizen, you are entitled to a nonimmigrant visa while you wait to be processed to become a permanent resident. Then, you can apply for citizenship. Actually, your best bet would probably be to send out a boat load of emails to half the valley explaining your situation and see if any will hire you. You can come in for interviews on a regular travel visa. Then, whoever you're working for just has to fill out some form and you can stay pretty much indefinitely as long as you're still employed and file an extension every two years. http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a7cc6138f898d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=48819c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f...

konsl 19y ago
What do you mean? I think he means he _doesn't_ want to be employed.
- amohr 19y ago
  that's what plan a (sham marriage) is for. But as long as you find somebody to incorporate with, they can technically be your 'employer' for these purposes, I assume. Bear in mind that this is all a little shady and really the only other way without an in (fake wife/employer) is through the presumably arduous process of just straight up applying for citizenship. Otherwise, grad school? :\
DaniFong 19y ago
The sham marriage is technically illegal, and vaguely dangerous. Though in fact it is indeed a common occurrence. You can, however, get a TN visa for part-time work, that is completely allowed. Also, the letter of the law seems to indicate that you're allowed to get a TN visa for a company you own partially, provided you don't have a controlling share (i'm not sure if this holds up in court, though). If it does, (i'd talk to an immigration lawyer to make sure), find three other Canadians, split a company equally, and nominate each others visas.
- omakase 19y ago
  Just found this: http://www.naftatnlawyer.com/nafta-tn-blog/2008/1/14/tn-visa-and-opening-new-business.html http://www.naftatnlawyer.com/nafta-tn-blog/2008/1/14/tn-visa... << Looks like "controlling" doesn't just refer to shares.
  - DaniFong 19y ago
    Interesting; they have the clause 'as a matter of fact'. What we're doing is we've actually founded a company (some americans are part of the company), but it's an actually entity, and the shares are split equally so nobody has a 'sole or primary' share of the stock or income. Again, this seems to be legal, and we don't see anything wrong with what we're doing. But we do see that some things that would be quite dubious could slip by the laws as well, and that makes us wonder if our interpretation is correct.
    - omakase 19y ago
      Hmm interesting, did you ever look at moving on a J1? Or for that matter does anyone else reading have experience with J1 visas?
      - DaniFong 19y ago
        I think you need to get some sort of legitimized sponsorship. I bet this is fairly complicated.
        omakase 19y ago
        A friend of mine did this to work as a waitress for four months in SC. http://www.swap.ca/out_eng/destinations/usa_internship.aspx http://www.swap.ca/out_eng/destinations/usa_internship.aspx Apparently she found work after she had received the visa and didn't have to report it. I don't want to do anything shady though. I guess you can't sponsor yourself (or your co-founder) for a J1 either?!
    - gregomebije 19y ago
davidw 19y ago
I knew an Italian dude that had a fake marriage in order to stay the US - he was a video game programmer making 100K+ in the early 90ies, but didn't have a college degree, so obviously wasn't qualified or some such tripe. He said that they are pretty thorough in their investigations of your marriage, especially if there are no kids. If it were me in charge, the customs/immigration/etc folks would be the first ones up against the wall:-)
iamelgringo 19y ago
Yeah... I wouldn't tempt fate by doing the sham marriage, thing. Doesn't really go over well when it's found out.
imsteve 19y ago
> Get a travel visa and a sham marriage. It's difficult for me to say that I support this but immigration regulations are so rediculous and I have seen this technique used very successfully several times so I must say that I agree. This isn't unique to the US' immigration regulations either.

by amohr 19y ago

konsl 19y ago

What do you mean? I think he means he _doesn't_ want to be employed.

amohr 19y ago
that's what plan a (sham marriage) is for. But as long as you find somebody to incorporate with, they can technically be your 'employer' for these purposes, I assume. Bear in mind that this is all a little shady and really the only other way without an in (fake wife/employer) is through the presumably arduous process of just straight up applying for citizenship. Otherwise, grad school? :\

DaniFong 19y ago

The sham marriage is technically illegal, and vaguely dangerous. Though in fact it is indeed a common occurrence. You can, however, get a TN visa for part-time work, that is completely allowed. Also, the letter of the law seems to indicate that you're allowed to get a TN visa for a company you own partially, provided you don't have a controlling share (i'm not sure if this holds up in court, though). If it does, (i'd talk to an immigration lawyer to make sure), find three other Canadians, split a company equally, and nominate each others visas.

omakase 19y ago
Just found this: http://www.naftatnlawyer.com/nafta-tn-blog/2008/1/14/tn-visa-and-opening-new-business.html http://www.naftatnlawyer.com/nafta-tn-blog/2008/1/14/tn-visa... << Looks like "controlling" doesn't just refer to shares.
- DaniFong 19y ago
  Interesting; they have the clause 'as a matter of fact'. What we're doing is we've actually founded a company (some americans are part of the company), but it's an actually entity, and the shares are split equally so nobody has a 'sole or primary' share of the stock or income. Again, this seems to be legal, and we don't see anything wrong with what we're doing. But we do see that some things that would be quite dubious could slip by the laws as well, and that makes us wonder if our interpretation is correct.
  - omakase 19y ago
    Hmm interesting, did you ever look at moving on a J1? Or for that matter does anyone else reading have experience with J1 visas?
    - DaniFong 19y ago
      I think you need to get some sort of legitimized sponsorship. I bet this is fairly complicated.
      - omakase 19y ago
        A friend of mine did this to work as a waitress for four months in SC. http://www.swap.ca/out_eng/destinations/usa_internship.aspx http://www.swap.ca/out_eng/destinations/usa_internship.aspx Apparently she found work after she had received the visa and didn't have to report it. I don't want to do anything shady though. I guess you can't sponsor yourself (or your co-founder) for a J1 either?!
  - gregomebije 19y ago

davidw 19y ago

I knew an Italian dude that had a fake marriage in order to stay the US - he was a video game programmer making 100K+ in the early 90ies, but didn't have a college degree, so obviously wasn't qualified or some such tripe. He said that they are pretty thorough in their investigations of your marriage, especially if there are no kids. If it were me in charge, the customs/immigration/etc folks would be the first ones up against the wall:-)

iamelgringo 19y ago

Yeah... I wouldn't tempt fate by doing the sham marriage, thing. Doesn't really go over well when it's found out.

imsteve 19y ago

> Get a travel visa and a sham marriage. It's difficult for me to say that I support this but immigration regulations are so rediculous and I have seen this technique used very successfully several times so I must say that I agree. This isn't unique to the US' immigration regulations either.