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I'll try with an example: In Europe currently they're housing many refugees in very crowded shelters, where by the sheer concentration of people, arguments and
by yoo1I 10y ago
I'll try with an example:
In Europe currently they're housing many refugees in very crowded shelters, where by the sheer concentration of people, arguments and violent conflict are more likely to break out.
This has has little to do with what kind of people you put in this housing, and a lot more with, among other things, the absence of any space for people to retreat back to.
The problem there isn't one of personal character, which you are trying to make it, but living conditions.
My argument is, that similar dynamics are at play at a larger scale. And you won't be able to fix those problems by trying to stay blind to that and just try to look at people individually.
- mjolk 10y agoYou're coloring outside of the lines. We're talking about policing crime in San Francisco, USA and not the living conditions and behaviors of economic migrants and refugees in Europe.
- yoo1I 10y agoIf you're really unable to see how one easily understandable, concrete example can serve as an illustration of a generally more complex instance of a related problem, then I don't think this conversation is going to get us anywhere. I hope you have a crime-free day.
- mjolk 10y agoYou've repeatedly fallen back to a wider position; you're not giving "concrete examples." You're blowing the discussion out of scope (trying to drag in something happening 6000 miles away with a totally different context) -- crime in San Francisco is not closely related to cultural differences, self- and by-policy segregation, and fear of policing/censorship happening in Europe. I wish you the best as well.
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