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Man who made a vague threat against FBI agent is disappeared for 14 months.

by a3n 11y ago

tptacek 11y ago
I know this is just a drive-by comment, but on the off chance you don't actually know the difference between unjust detention and "disappearing", I'll spell it out: * Lopez was apprehended in daylight at his house by uniformed police acting on an arrest warrant. The disappeared are snatched by anonymous or covert paramilitaries. * Lopez was taken to the NY Metropolitan Corrections Center. The disappeared are tortured and killed. * Lopez' family was aware of his location throughout his ordeal. The families of the disappeared never know that, which is why they're called "disappeared". * Lopez was released. The disappeared usually stay disappeared.
- a3n 11y ago
  You're right, it was an exaggeration, to highlight the fact that he was held and not tried for fourteen months, and charges were only dropped when an evaluator finally got access to evidence that should have been available from the beginning. How much longer would he have been disappeared in plain sight if the government were able to suppress evidence/information even longer? (And yes, I know the difference.)
  - tptacek 11y ago
    Maybe. But I don't think that's what happened. What I think happened was, the guy was involuntarily committed through the criminal justice process, and so like everyone admitted to psychiatric inpatient care --- under any circumstances --- he was stuck until the facilities got sick of him or he lucked into a doctor that actually gave a fraction of a shit about him. Unfortunately for him, private psychiatric inpatients are there on the dollar of their insurance companies, and so there's an implicit clock ticking on their stay. The same is not the case for the utterly unaccountable state-run involuntary mental health care system.
    - a3n 11y ago
      Then why would the prosecutor be motivated to have him "forcibly medicated?" They clearly were taking an interest in his "treatment."
      - tptacek 11y ago
        What do you think involuntary psychiatric commitment is? This is what it is. Yes! The prosecutors believed --- with some justification --- that Lopez was crazy. The system is set up to err on the side of indefinite psychiatric detention.

Man who made a vague threat against FBI agent is disappeared for 14 months.

by a3n 11y ago

Man who made a vague threat against FBI agent is disappeared for 14 months.

I know this is just a drive-by comment, but on the off chance you don't actually know the difference between unjust detention and "disappearing", I'll spell it out: * Lopez was apprehended in daylight at his house by uniformed police acting on an arrest warrant. The disappeared are snatched by anonymous or covert paramilitaries. * Lopez was taken to the NY Metropolitan Corrections Center. The disappeared are tortured and killed. * Lopez' family was aware of his location throughout his ordeal. The families of the disappeared never know that, which is why they're called "disappeared". * Lopez was released. The disappeared usually stay disappeared.

a3n 11y ago
You're right, it was an exaggeration, to highlight the fact that he was held and not tried for fourteen months, and charges were only dropped when an evaluator finally got access to evidence that should have been available from the beginning. How much longer would he have been disappeared in plain sight if the government were able to suppress evidence/information even longer? (And yes, I know the difference.)
- tptacek 11y ago
  Maybe. But I don't think that's what happened. What I think happened was, the guy was involuntarily committed through the criminal justice process, and so like everyone admitted to psychiatric inpatient care --- under any circumstances --- he was stuck until the facilities got sick of him or he lucked into a doctor that actually gave a fraction of a shit about him. Unfortunately for him, private psychiatric inpatients are there on the dollar of their insurance companies, and so there's an implicit clock ticking on their stay. The same is not the case for the utterly unaccountable state-run involuntary mental health care system.
  - a3n 11y ago
    Then why would the prosecutor be motivated to have him "forcibly medicated?" They clearly were taking an interest in his "treatment."
    - tptacek 11y ago
      What do you think involuntary psychiatric commitment is? This is what it is. Yes! The prosecutors believed --- with some justification --- that Lopez was crazy. The system is set up to err on the side of indefinite psychiatric detention.