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I wouldn't respond to any of them. Do you understand my point? I am "Dave" (or David to my mother). That's it. You can spell or pronounce it however you want, b

I wouldn't respond to any of them. Do you understand my point? I am "Dave" (or David to my mother). That's it. You can spell or pronounce it however you want, but you're speaking of or to someone other than me.

jobigoud 11y ago
What if you move to a country where the language doesn't have one of the sound in your name. Like 'D' or 'V'? And you have to transliterate your name to fill forms. It's a common problem for at least Russian and Chinese names which can't be spelled accurately with the roman alphabet. As a concrete example, Japanese doesn't have a native 'V' sound, so your name would be slightly mispronounced.
- themartorana 11y ago
  As I mention above, I'm not so obtuse as to have a negative reaction to someone making an effort to say my name as I introduce myself, because of a non-native sound. Different alphabets do introduce unique challenges, but across all languages using the same Roman alphabet, it's spelled D-A-V-E. (Or D-A-V-I-D if you insist.) But then, I've never had anyone in any culture besides my high school language teacher tell me my name was something different.
dagw 11y ago
I wouldn't respond to any of them. I take it you haven't lived in a country where pronouncing "Dave" is tricky. If I was to not respond to everybody who didn't pronounce my name correctly when I lived in England it would have been some very lonely and infuriating years. At the end of the day I accepted that the exact pronunciation of my name wasn't that important as long as everybody understood who we where talking about.
- themartorana 11y ago
  I've travelled to plenty (I used to work for a large multinational and travelled to all parts of the world) and people I interacted with across many disparate cultures made the effort to pronounce my name as I was introduced (or introduced myself) to them. I also made every effort to pronounce their names as they pronounced them. Accents being what they are, it wasn't always perfect, but they never decided to call me a local translation of "Dave." But again, I think we should call Italy "Italia" because that's how Italians spell and pronounce it. When I ask a local something about Padua and they look at me confused until I ask them about Padova, we should all be making the effort to call it "Padova."
  - dagw 11y ago
    they never decided to call me a local translation of "Dave." I had a German friend in England called "Peter" and everyone always called him the English pronunciation of "Peter" no matter how he introduced himself. Maybe it's different with an English name in a non-english speaking country, since the 'correct' pronunciation is often known thanks to TV and movies.
    - themartorana 11y ago
      That would have been considered disrespectful in my company, and to me personally. That said, I spent some time in Germany working with Germans, but we would only call someone "Peter" if he (or heck, she) asked to be directly. I suppose this boils down to identity for me, having had hours to reflect on this conversation now. My name is a huge part of my identity. How it can be changed in any way without my consent is bizarre to me (respect to the untold number of immigrants that had their names changed at Ellis Island and elsewhere on a whim). In any case, yeah, unless he asked to be called Peter, WTF?
      - dagw 11y ago
        That would have been considered disrespectful in my company, and to me personally Me, I quickly realized it was about picking my battles. I could fight every day I lived in England to get people to pronounce it correctly or I could accept a reasonable best effort approximation and move on with my life. I found that most expats/immigrants with strange names took the same approach. These days when I'm in England or North America I've even started to pronounce my own name slightly wrong to speed up the whole process. Hell some people I know even preemptively changed their names to something easier to save everybody the effort. Mispronunciations where (almost) never due to malice and my friends converged on a good pronunciation fairly quickly, and that was good enough for me. Spending a few years of your youth with most people getting you name wrong quickly desensitizes you to such minor details.
chrisoverzero 11y ago
> I wouldn't respond to any of them. This is a difference in era and culture, I think, rather than only one of spelling. Look at all of the "other names" listed on the Christopher Columbus page of Wikipedia. In Italy he was Cristoforo Colombo, in Spain he was Cristóbal Colón.
- themartorana 11y ago
  You're right, and I'm sure globalization and the Internet make me more stubborn about the whole thing.

jobigoud 11y ago

What if you move to a country where the language doesn't have one of the sound in your name. Like 'D' or 'V'? And you have to transliterate your name to fill forms. It's a common problem for at least Russian and Chinese names which can't be spelled accurately with the roman alphabet. As a concrete example, Japanese doesn't have a native 'V' sound, so your name would be slightly mispronounced.

themartorana 11y ago
As I mention above, I'm not so obtuse as to have a negative reaction to someone making an effort to say my name as I introduce myself, because of a non-native sound. Different alphabets do introduce unique challenges, but across all languages using the same Roman alphabet, it's spelled D-A-V-E. (Or D-A-V-I-D if you insist.) But then, I've never had anyone in any culture besides my high school language teacher tell me my name was something different.

dagw 11y ago

I wouldn't respond to any of them. I take it you haven't lived in a country where pronouncing "Dave" is tricky. If I was to not respond to everybody who didn't pronounce my name correctly when I lived in England it would have been some very lonely and infuriating years. At the end of the day I accepted that the exact pronunciation of my name wasn't that important as long as everybody understood who we where talking about.

themartorana 11y ago
I've travelled to plenty (I used to work for a large multinational and travelled to all parts of the world) and people I interacted with across many disparate cultures made the effort to pronounce my name as I was introduced (or introduced myself) to them. I also made every effort to pronounce their names as they pronounced them. Accents being what they are, it wasn't always perfect, but they never decided to call me a local translation of "Dave." But again, I think we should call Italy "Italia" because that's how Italians spell and pronounce it. When I ask a local something about Padua and they look at me confused until I ask them about Padova, we should all be making the effort to call it "Padova."
- dagw 11y ago
  they never decided to call me a local translation of "Dave." I had a German friend in England called "Peter" and everyone always called him the English pronunciation of "Peter" no matter how he introduced himself. Maybe it's different with an English name in a non-english speaking country, since the 'correct' pronunciation is often known thanks to TV and movies.
  - themartorana 11y ago
    That would have been considered disrespectful in my company, and to me personally. That said, I spent some time in Germany working with Germans, but we would only call someone "Peter" if he (or heck, she) asked to be directly. I suppose this boils down to identity for me, having had hours to reflect on this conversation now. My name is a huge part of my identity. How it can be changed in any way without my consent is bizarre to me (respect to the untold number of immigrants that had their names changed at Ellis Island and elsewhere on a whim). In any case, yeah, unless he asked to be called Peter, WTF?
    - dagw 11y ago
      That would have been considered disrespectful in my company, and to me personally Me, I quickly realized it was about picking my battles. I could fight every day I lived in England to get people to pronounce it correctly or I could accept a reasonable best effort approximation and move on with my life. I found that most expats/immigrants with strange names took the same approach. These days when I'm in England or North America I've even started to pronounce my own name slightly wrong to speed up the whole process. Hell some people I know even preemptively changed their names to something easier to save everybody the effort. Mispronunciations where (almost) never due to malice and my friends converged on a good pronunciation fairly quickly, and that was good enough for me. Spending a few years of your youth with most people getting you name wrong quickly desensitizes you to such minor details.

chrisoverzero 11y ago

> I wouldn't respond to any of them. This is a difference in era and culture, I think, rather than only one of spelling. Look at all of the "other names" listed on the Christopher Columbus page of Wikipedia. In Italy he was Cristoforo Colombo, in Spain he was Cristóbal Colón.

themartorana 11y ago
You're right, and I'm sure globalization and the Internet make me more stubborn about the whole thing.