>I don't get why people think hacker news is this little utopia of internet discussion. I don't think anyone thinks that. The point isn't "HN is a utopia." It'

>I don't get why people think hacker news is this little utopia of internet discussion. I don't think anyone thinks that. The point isn't "HN is a utopia." It's "HN provides better discussion than most other places on the internet." On reddit, your comment probably would have been downvoted to hell by people who disagreed with you.