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Who defines hate speech? Who defines genocide? Are we going to say that the settlement of the west by the US was a genocide of American Indians? If so, doesn't

Who defines hate speech? Who defines genocide? Are we going to say that the settlement of the west by the US was a genocide of American Indians? If so, doesn't that mean the whole ideological basis of America is genocidal and should be banned? What if some religious ideologues got control of the government and used hate speech laws to band criticism of religion? Or defined abortion as a genocide against the unborn? I'm not willing to risk allowing anyone to define what is rightthink and wrongthink for my country.

bad_user 10y ago
Oh come on, is that the best straw man you're capable of? Surely can do better than that. > "Who defines hate speech? Who defines genocide?" Genocide is the intentional action to systematically eliminate an ethnic, national, racial or religious group. I don't think the definition is subjective in any way. > "Are we going to say that the settlement of the west by the US was a genocide of American Indians?" I don't know much of US's history, but there are scholars that believe the decline in population of American Indians was genocidal. > "If so, doesn't that mean the whole ideological basis of America is genocidal and should be banned?" What is this "ideological basis of America" that you're referring to? Is it the US constitution? Does the US constitution invite to racism and genocide of American Indians? Are you seriously going to argue that genocide is a matter of interpretation in the Nazi propaganda? > "Or defined abortion as a genocide against the unborn?" Abortion isn't genocide by definition. > "I'm not willing to risk allowing anyone to define what is rightthink and wrongthink for my country." Really? Because that's the whole point of having a government and by having a government you've already lost that battle. And if you're an anarchist, your energy isn't spent where it should be.

bad_user 10y ago

Oh come on, is that the best straw man you're capable of? Surely can do better than that. > "Who defines hate speech? Who defines genocide?" Genocide is the intentional action to systematically eliminate an ethnic, national, racial or religious group. I don't think the definition is subjective in any way. > "Are we going to say that the settlement of the west by the US was a genocide of American Indians?" I don't know much of US's history, but there are scholars that believe the decline in population of American Indians was genocidal. > "If so, doesn't that mean the whole ideological basis of America is genocidal and should be banned?" What is this "ideological basis of America" that you're referring to? Is it the US constitution? Does the US constitution invite to racism and genocide of American Indians? Are you seriously going to argue that genocide is a matter of interpretation in the Nazi propaganda? > "Or defined abortion as a genocide against the unborn?" Abortion isn't genocide by definition. > "I'm not willing to risk allowing anyone to define what is rightthink and wrongthink for my country." Really? Because that's the whole point of having a government and by having a government you've already lost that battle. And if you're an anarchist, your energy isn't spent where it should be.