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Errr, that is exactly what happened, and an apology was due. While it's primarily the responsibility of an upland bird hunter (anyone shooting, of course, but

by hga 11y ago

Errr, that is exactly what happened, and an apology was due. While it's primarily the responsibility of an upland bird hunter (anyone shooting, of course, but in this sort of hunting you move around a lot and flush out birds unexpectedly) to keep track of everyone and not shoot when any of them are down range, everyone in the hunting party also has a responsibility to follow previously agreed upon protocols to make this easier and less error prone. The guy who got shot screwed that up big time.

avar 11y ago
I mean the implied accusation that Chaney was at fault but due to some coercion got the guy to say that it was his bad, which is usually what the subtext is when this gets trotted out.
- Avshalom 11y ago
  That's because that subtext is fucking hilarious. It's the actualization of every punchline about Real Power ever.
jessaustin 11y ago
Wow this sounds like a good reason to never go upland bird hunting: the four rules don't apply! No thanks; I'll hunt in safer circumstances.
- Avshalom 11y ago
  To be, somewhat, fair getting shot is a risk you have to assume when going hunting, especially with other people. (Depressingly) Routine hunting accidents don't usually turn peoples lives into a media circus. That's ostensibly why the apology. Of course A)as VP Cheney's life was already a media circus B) Cheney shot the dude in his face and assumed-risk-or-no Cheney bears the responsibility for that.
- hga 11y ago
  Eh, it's pretty safe, and the Four Rules most certainly apply, it's just that implementing Rule 4 is much more difficult. In ~70 years of it, one of my father's favorite pastimes, he got shot exactly once, although there was no excuse for it like there was in the Chaney accident. Then again, he was both careful in picking his hunting partners and only hunted with some of them once after they demonstrated they didn't have their act together. As long as you wear glasses and there's some distance, serious injury is unlikely, as happened with him. A tough shirt is also recommenced, that stopped penetration of the shot that hit his chest.

by hga 11y ago

avar 11y ago

I mean the implied accusation that Chaney was at fault but due to some coercion got the guy to say that it was his bad, which is usually what the subtext is when this gets trotted out.

Avshalom 11y ago
That's because that subtext is fucking hilarious. It's the actualization of every punchline about Real Power ever.

jessaustin 11y ago

Wow this sounds like a good reason to never go upland bird hunting: the four rules don't apply! No thanks; I'll hunt in safer circumstances.

Avshalom 11y ago
To be, somewhat, fair getting shot is a risk you have to assume when going hunting, especially with other people. (Depressingly) Routine hunting accidents don't usually turn peoples lives into a media circus. That's ostensibly why the apology. Of course A)as VP Cheney's life was already a media circus B) Cheney shot the dude in his face and assumed-risk-or-no Cheney bears the responsibility for that.
hga 11y ago
Eh, it's pretty safe, and the Four Rules most certainly apply, it's just that implementing Rule 4 is much more difficult. In ~70 years of it, one of my father's favorite pastimes, he got shot exactly once, although there was no excuse for it like there was in the Chaney accident. Then again, he was both careful in picking his hunting partners and only hunted with some of them once after they demonstrated they didn't have their act together. As long as you wear glasses and there's some distance, serious injury is unlikely, as happened with him. A tough shirt is also recommenced, that stopped penetration of the shot that hit his chest.