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>>You want a Donald Trump nominating one of his cronies at the head of the US intelligence services and starting to dig into untold amounts of already-recorded

by tmptmp 10y ago

>>You want a Donald Trump nominating one of his cronies at the head of the US intelligence services and starting to dig into untold amounts of already-recorded communications? Still a Donald Trump in USA is far better and very less dangerous as compared to the tyrants like Mao or Stalin or Castro, because USA has many good checks and balances in place. I do appreciate people's fears about state becoming tyrannical but people in USA should not allow its enemies to use (exploit) such fear to push forward their agenda and make US a weak and vulnerable state. The people of USA should recognize this. The important point to note here is that the intellectuals (Snowden and his supporters) who are targeting USA both at national and international level were silent about the extremely intrusive surveillance and other atrocities inflicted by the tyrants like Putin (at whose place Snowden may be currently enjoying his reward) and are still silent.

mercurial 10y ago
> Still a Donald Trump in USA is far better and very less dangerous as compared to the tyrants like Mao or Stalin or Castro, because USA has many good checks and balances in place. How do you think Hoover stayed in place that long? You can pull a great many things without needing to disappear people at four in the morning. > The important point to note here is that the intellectuals (Snowden and his supporters) who are targeting USA both at national and international level were silent about the extremely intrusive surveillance and other atrocities inflicted by the tyrants like Putin (at whose place Snowden may be currently enjoying his reward) and are still silent. Snowden was not a public figure before. And you really think a life of exile in Russia is some kind of reward? That said, I think Snowden is against global surveillance in general, but: a) I can totally understand that you want to tread carefully in this kind of situation. You don't think he has already given up enough? What would you do in his situation? b) While Putin is certainly more willing to suppress political opponents, I doubt the Russian surveillance network is even remotely in the same league as the NSA c) Snowden is no doubt a lot more qualified to speak about Western surveillance than he is about Russian or Chinese efforts
- tmptmp 10y ago
  >>How do you think Hoover stayed in place that long? You can pull a great many things without needing to disappear people at four in the morning. Still Hoover or whoever in USA is no match for Mao or Stalin or Castro as far as their potential to inflict torture and control over their citizens is concerned. A president in US cannot be a president for his entire life, it's only 8 years max (that too if people wanted him/her to be). While in Cuba we can see Castro remained in power until he couldn't move his body even so much and then also he put his crony (his brother) in power. That is dangerous and worrisome. >>While Putin is certainly more willing to suppress political opponents, I doubt the Russian surveillance network is even remotely in the same league as the NSA. The way Putin and his cronies suppressed homosexuals in Russia sends chills down the spines of free thinkers. In short, with your neighbours and even family members spying on each other and reporting to Putin's people, you don't need sophisticated surveillance network in the first place. In USA, the situation is far, far better than what the Snowdens and their supporters are trying to portray.
  - tmptmp 10y ago
    See [1] also [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia

by tmptmp 10y ago

mercurial 10y ago

> Still a Donald Trump in USA is far better and very less dangerous as compared to the tyrants like Mao or Stalin or Castro, because USA has many good checks and balances in place. How do you think Hoover stayed in place that long? You can pull a great many things without needing to disappear people at four in the morning. > The important point to note here is that the intellectuals (Snowden and his supporters) who are targeting USA both at national and international level were silent about the extremely intrusive surveillance and other atrocities inflicted by the tyrants like Putin (at whose place Snowden may be currently enjoying his reward) and are still silent. Snowden was not a public figure before. And you really think a life of exile in Russia is some kind of reward? That said, I think Snowden is against global surveillance in general, but: a) I can totally understand that you want to tread carefully in this kind of situation. You don't think he has already given up enough? What would you do in his situation? b) While Putin is certainly more willing to suppress political opponents, I doubt the Russian surveillance network is even remotely in the same league as the NSA c) Snowden is no doubt a lot more qualified to speak about Western surveillance than he is about Russian or Chinese efforts

tmptmp 10y ago
>>How do you think Hoover stayed in place that long? You can pull a great many things without needing to disappear people at four in the morning. Still Hoover or whoever in USA is no match for Mao or Stalin or Castro as far as their potential to inflict torture and control over their citizens is concerned. A president in US cannot be a president for his entire life, it's only 8 years max (that too if people wanted him/her to be). While in Cuba we can see Castro remained in power until he couldn't move his body even so much and then also he put his crony (his brother) in power. That is dangerous and worrisome. >>While Putin is certainly more willing to suppress political opponents, I doubt the Russian surveillance network is even remotely in the same league as the NSA. The way Putin and his cronies suppressed homosexuals in Russia sends chills down the spines of free thinkers. In short, with your neighbours and even family members spying on each other and reporting to Putin's people, you don't need sophisticated surveillance network in the first place. In USA, the situation is far, far better than what the Snowdens and their supporters are trying to portray.
- tmptmp 10y ago
  See [1] also [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia