Ah, usually before the planning phase there is a pre-planning phase that takes weeks. During that time the group tries to identify all the people that need to b

Ah, usually before the planning phase there is a pre-planning phase that takes weeks. During that time the group tries to identify all the people that need to be in the planning meetings. I actually worked in a place that developed software this way. The smallest of projects would take over 8 months. Large projects would take close to 5 years. Any project that took over 1 year was likely to get canceled. The budget would usually look different the following year, the business priorities would shift or the technology stack would be obsolete. I was in meetings over 90% of the time. Often meetings had to be scheduled during lunch time since it was the only time everyone was available.