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Idk, I'm so tired of NewYorker-style liberal's attempt at humor about other political groups. It's disrespectful because they don't show that they've attempted

Idk, I'm so tired of NewYorker-style liberal's attempt at humor about other political groups. It's disrespectful because they don't show that they've attempted to actually think about the issues, they're just knee-jerking with their emotions. Their treatment of Trump is similarly ridiculous. They're just waving their blueTribe flag as hard as they can. And when liberals talk about Ayn Rand? It's like she's the worst depraved demon ever. But if you read some of her quotes, they're kind of motivational. Sure it can be a little too selfish, but I know a lot of people who would benefit if they internalized that THEY are the main driver in their own lives, rather than playing victim their whole life. http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/432.Ayn_Rand http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/432.Ayn_Rand “If you don't know, the thing to do is not to get scared, but to learn.” I've been watching the Rubin Report b/c Dave Rubin is a liberal that will actually fucking sit down and talk it out with someone on the otherside. Great show. https://www.youtube.com/user/RubinReport https://www.youtube.com/user/RubinReport

specialist 11y ago
"I'm so tired of NewYorker-style liberal's attempt at humor about other political groups." Too soon? From Rubin's wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rubin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rubin "regressive left" The regressive what? According to Rubin, there's a bunch of liberals defending atrocities done in the name of Islam. I'm just about the most left-wing person I know, very involved in politics, and no one I've met is an apologist for haters. Edit: Okay. I had to watch a Rubin episode, just in case. Because you know, he might not be a whackjob. Chosen randomly: Julie Lenarz and Dave Rubin: Brussels, Terrorism, Immigration Crisis (Full Interview) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLfxJPJDzMo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLfxJPJDzMo I stopped at 1:20 when he stated that many on the far-left endorse terrorism. Which is apparently the intellectual equivalent of when conservatives paint all Muslims as terrorists. No worries. Just added Rubin to my ever growing twit filter. Thanks for the tip.
- emgoldstein 11y ago
  Your tone seems pretty strong. Have you ever heard of Anwar al-Alwaki? Do you ever read the New York Times? http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/19/us/nation-challenged-american-muslims-influential-american-muslims-temper-their.html http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/19/us/nation-challenged-ameri... "Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki, spiritual leader at the Dar al-Hijra mosque in Virginia, one of the nation's largest, which draws about 3,000 worshipers for communal prayers each Friday, said: ''In the past we were oblivious. We didn't really care much because we never expected things to happen. Now I think things are different. What we might have tolerated in the past, we won't tolerate any more.'' ''There were some statements that were inflammatory, and were considered just talk, but now we realize that talk can be taken seriously and acted upon in a violent radical way,'' said Mr. Al-Awlaki, who at 30 is held up as a new generation of Muslim leader capable of merging East and West: born in New Mexico to parents from Yemen, who studied Islam in Yemen and civil engineering at Colorado State University." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki A new generation! Of course, as you would probably say, in 2001 al-Awlaki was a good-Muslim but by 2003 he had become a bad-Muslim. You may also believe that you decide who is a Muslim, and the new al-Alwaki was not a Muslim at all... The line between these categories seems pretty thin, however. For instance, the US taxpayer funds the Palestinian Authority, and one wing of the PA is the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, which blows up buses and stuff. Al-Aqsa is an "unofficial" arm of Fatah, however, and the PA is "officially" distinct from Fatah. So while many on the far left endorse the PA, few on the far left endorse Al-Aqsa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Martyrs%27_Brigades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Imagine if rightists got to let themselves be wilfully taken in by this transparent game of three-card monte. Any fascist who didn't send any Jews to Auschwitz, personally, himself, could claim to be totally in the clear. Perhaps the SS is just the "armed wing" of the Third Reich, etc, etc. And if you're Petain or Franco, you had nothing to do with that at all. Etc, etc, etc. [Edit: spacing.]
jrockway 11y ago
The author of that article seems willing to be sarcastic about anything. http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/switched-standing-desk-now http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/switched-standin... I have to say I quite enjoy that writing style.

specialist 11y ago

"I'm so tired of NewYorker-style liberal's attempt at humor about other political groups." Too soon? From Rubin's wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rubin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rubin "regressive left" The regressive what? According to Rubin, there's a bunch of liberals defending atrocities done in the name of Islam. I'm just about the most left-wing person I know, very involved in politics, and no one I've met is an apologist for haters. Edit: Okay. I had to watch a Rubin episode, just in case. Because you know, he might not be a whackjob. Chosen randomly: Julie Lenarz and Dave Rubin: Brussels, Terrorism, Immigration Crisis (Full Interview) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLfxJPJDzMo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLfxJPJDzMo I stopped at 1:20 when he stated that many on the far-left endorse terrorism. Which is apparently the intellectual equivalent of when conservatives paint all Muslims as terrorists. No worries. Just added Rubin to my ever growing twit filter. Thanks for the tip.

emgoldstein 11y ago
Your tone seems pretty strong. Have you ever heard of Anwar al-Alwaki? Do you ever read the New York Times? http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/19/us/nation-challenged-american-muslims-influential-american-muslims-temper-their.html http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/19/us/nation-challenged-ameri... "Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki, spiritual leader at the Dar al-Hijra mosque in Virginia, one of the nation's largest, which draws about 3,000 worshipers for communal prayers each Friday, said: ''In the past we were oblivious. We didn't really care much because we never expected things to happen. Now I think things are different. What we might have tolerated in the past, we won't tolerate any more.'' ''There were some statements that were inflammatory, and were considered just talk, but now we realize that talk can be taken seriously and acted upon in a violent radical way,'' said Mr. Al-Awlaki, who at 30 is held up as a new generation of Muslim leader capable of merging East and West: born in New Mexico to parents from Yemen, who studied Islam in Yemen and civil engineering at Colorado State University." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki A new generation! Of course, as you would probably say, in 2001 al-Awlaki was a good-Muslim but by 2003 he had become a bad-Muslim. You may also believe that you decide who is a Muslim, and the new al-Alwaki was not a Muslim at all... The line between these categories seems pretty thin, however. For instance, the US taxpayer funds the Palestinian Authority, and one wing of the PA is the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, which blows up buses and stuff. Al-Aqsa is an "unofficial" arm of Fatah, however, and the PA is "officially" distinct from Fatah. So while many on the far left endorse the PA, few on the far left endorse Al-Aqsa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Martyrs%27_Brigades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority Imagine if rightists got to let themselves be wilfully taken in by this transparent game of three-card monte. Any fascist who didn't send any Jews to Auschwitz, personally, himself, could claim to be totally in the clear. Perhaps the SS is just the "armed wing" of the Third Reich, etc, etc. And if you're Petain or Franco, you had nothing to do with that at all. Etc, etc, etc. [Edit: spacing.]

jrockway 11y ago

The author of that article seems willing to be sarcastic about anything. http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/switched-standing-desk-now http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/switched-standin... I have to say I quite enjoy that writing style.