> > But we were confronted with documented evidence in 2013 that even what most people would consider to be a fairly forthright upstanding government was abusin

> > But we were confronted with documented evidence in 2013 that even what most people would consider to be a fairly forthright upstanding government was abusing these capabilities in the most indiscriminate way. > Um. Who thought this? Ever? Since the 90s. To be clear this meant who thought we had "a fairly forthright upstanding government [not] abusing these capabilities in the most indiscriminate way" ever since the 90s.