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I had no idea. I'm not downplaying Snowden. The guy is 100% a hero in my eyes. But, to claim we in tech community were all like "I have no idea this was happeni

• tanderson92 11y ago
  It was also very easy to dismiss us as conspiracy theorists. And indeed we were. The Snowden revelations are useful as a way of saying "we predicted the state was engaging in mass surveillance and they denied it while they continued the program". That is immensely useful for the future.
  • nickpsecurity 11y ago
    I agree. I agree in a specific way: people were always thinking that anything with a significant chunk of people would've been revealed by a bunch of them. There's probably thousands involved in everything in the Snowden leaks from government to private industry. About biggest stuff, only one or two people talked while the rest worked in secret by the thousands to make it happen for around 10 years. That's one hell of a counter to the bullshit I keep hearing that nothing secret or evil could happen if it's 2 or more government people.