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This ruling is unfortunately another example of how our courts and our system of checks of balances has totally failed. The idea that the FBI can eliminate you

This ruling is unfortunately another example of how our courts and our system of checks of balances has totally failed. The idea that the FBI can eliminate your 1st Amendment rights by issuing you a letter flies in the face of everything that a free society is based on.

dmix 11y ago
I'm curious why the technology industry in the only one pushing back on this? This must be affecting other industries too. Or are we just the only ones who give a shit? The total lack of push-back from the banking/finance sector is what I find interesting, they have no shortage of lawyers. I get the impression that nobody ever expected them to not be totally submissive to gov requests.
- danielschonfeld 11y ago
  Or maybe the banks don't get harassed in the same way as everybody else does given the total financialization of government and modern American life.
- lukeadams 11y ago
  I would assume it comes into contact with it more..? The technology industry is behind telecom infrastructure, consumer facing communications, etc; all of which seem like better targets than banks or the financial industry.
rasz_pl 11y ago
afaik no one ever went public announcing and publishing NSL right as he got it. I could only google one case of someone publishing 11 year old redacted letter after spending years in court. Going public first and waiting for FBI move would be a better test of 1st amendment than complaining FBI keeps sending those and people get intimidated into submission.
- StanislavPetrov 11y ago
  >afaik no one ever went public announcing and publishing NSL right as he got it. Because going public is a federal crime punishable by many years in federal prison under 18 U.S.C. § 2709 and the Patriot Act section 505. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2709 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2709 https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/BILLS-107hr3162enr.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/BILLS-1... Kudos to whoever has the balls to sit in solitary confinement in federal prison for years or decades while the kangaroo courts here in the USA consider and reject their pleas for justice. https://twitter.com/AlexanderAbdo/status/723181432424652800 https://twitter.com/AlexanderAbdo/status/723181432424652800

dmix 11y ago

I'm curious why the technology industry in the only one pushing back on this? This must be affecting other industries too. Or are we just the only ones who give a shit? The total lack of push-back from the banking/finance sector is what I find interesting, they have no shortage of lawyers. I get the impression that nobody ever expected them to not be totally submissive to gov requests.

danielschonfeld 11y ago
Or maybe the banks don't get harassed in the same way as everybody else does given the total financialization of government and modern American life.
lukeadams 11y ago
I would assume it comes into contact with it more..? The technology industry is behind telecom infrastructure, consumer facing communications, etc; all of which seem like better targets than banks or the financial industry.

rasz_pl 11y ago

afaik no one ever went public announcing and publishing NSL right as he got it. I could only google one case of someone publishing 11 year old redacted letter after spending years in court. Going public first and waiting for FBI move would be a better test of 1st amendment than complaining FBI keeps sending those and people get intimidated into submission.

StanislavPetrov 11y ago
>afaik no one ever went public announcing and publishing NSL right as he got it. Because going public is a federal crime punishable by many years in federal prison under 18 U.S.C. § 2709 and the Patriot Act section 505. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2709 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2709 https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/BILLS-107hr3162enr.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/BILLS-1... Kudos to whoever has the balls to sit in solitary confinement in federal prison for years or decades while the kangaroo courts here in the USA consider and reject their pleas for justice. https://twitter.com/AlexanderAbdo/status/723181432424652800 https://twitter.com/AlexanderAbdo/status/723181432424652800